Life In 19x19

Park Junghwan won the first game as white by 2.5 points. It was quite a reversal: in the middle game he spent rather too many gote endgame type moves attacking a black group which Tang skillfully dodged and tenukied to take big opening points which doubled up as extending a lifeline to his weak group, but he managed to make some complicated fighting and some slip ups from Tang allowed Park to catch up. AGA commentary link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s

Wow, I can't believe it.

In the middle game, I felt white was like 20 points behind, and I eventually assumed black win and went to bed. I heard Tang was good at late middle game, too.

I can't believe white won.

That's the 16th straight professional win in a row for Park Junghwan...

Game 1,
Park Junghwan defeated Tang Weixing by 3.

Park Junghwan vs Tang Weixing 1:0

game 2: 8/12/16


How the hell did I lose this game?/

** At 4am move 131, I went to sleep thinking there is no way that Park is gonna reverse this situation. Well...........

w seemed so bad after fuseki, i was like yeah this is a done deal, wth happened?

trout wrote: How the hell did I lose this game?

He needs a better fan.

b143 was the losing move.

Since this is the Ing cup, they used Ing style counting. I found a picture here http://www.tygem.com/news/news/viewpage ... &findword= of the counting.



First white's 8 points of komi are represented by putting 4 white stones inside black's territory. You can see them in the upper middle of the board. Both sides have exactly 180 stones, and they fill the board with their own stones. Then you can see in the upper right white's margin of victory -- 2 empty points and 1 extra black stone = 3 points. From some other pictures it looks likely that a referee did the actual counting procedure instead of the players.

You can also see the Ing clock and one of the Ing bowls which holds exactly 180 stones to make this counting method work.


From another article: http://www.cyberoro.com/news/news_view. ... =1&cmt_n=0

After the match, Tang Weixing wrote on his SNS "After playing I was waiting for my opponent to give up." But actually Tang Weixing missed his chance to decisively end the match here.

The article points out several places Tang Weixing had chances to wrap up the match. Also it calls Park Junghwan "Alpha Park".

I hope there is an English commentary on this game soon. There aren't very many opportunities to see pros turn around a losing game against top competition!

jeromie wrote:I hope there is an English commentary on this game soon. There aren't very many opportunities to see pros turn around a losing game against top competition!

I have a lot of respect for Park Junghwan, and I think he did a great job of making the game complicated. But my feeling is that it wasn't Park who turned the game around, but Tang

When asked about the game later by some reporter, Park simply responded, "It was all losing go," and had nothing else to comment.

Yes, Tang's play was probably the dominant factor. I'm still wondering what I could learn from a professional blundering away a win. Perhaps it wouldn't be as interesting as a game in which both players created a masterpiece, but it seems there might be a few lessons there I wouldn't find elsewhere.

Game 2,
Tang Weixing defeated Park Junghwan by 2.5.
** Park Junghwan was given 4 points penalty.

Park Junghwan vs Tang Weixing 1:1

game 3-5: 10/22. 10/24 and 10/26

dunno why people keep saying 2.5, komi is a whole number, how can you have a x.5 score?

idontgetit wrote:dunno why people keep saying 2.5, komi is a whole number, how can you have a x.5 score?

Probably because that's what wBaduk or Tygem report (incorrectly, as you note). Although komi is 8 black wins ties so it is functionally equivalent to 7.5 komi (or 7.2 or 2e + pi/2).

idontgetit wrote:dunno why people keep saying 2.5, komi is a whole number, how can you have a x.5 score?

It shows how flexible and adaptive go players thinking is...

Cheers,
Vesa