Life In 19x19

Posted: **Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:11 am**

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Seems bad, right? White has split Black's corner from his center. Maybe there's not much aji on the outside, but I just don't think that those outside stones are worth enough to make this good.

Posted: **Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:16 am**

hyperpape wrote:Seems bad, right? White has split Black's corner from his center. Maybe there's not much aji on the outside, but I just don't think that those outside stones are worth enough to make this good.

That really comes down to how much black can harass the top right white group. If black can chase or kill them, he can sacrifice the top left stones in good conscience and be content. If he only gets a partial success in the top right, he can save his top left stones and be fine. I'm not certain or anything, but it doesn't seem like the cut is bad for sure, just a much more influential choice.

Posted: **Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:09 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm27 Black 27 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O 3 . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . 1 . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sano & everyone else: I didn't think it was acceptable to let those three stones get cut off.

Now that I look again, though, I think a solid connection is better than this move.

Posted: **Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:26 pm**

White's move seems obvious now, of course...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . 1 O X . . X . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Also, after that I still think Black would cut at G15 - but maybe Black at G18 or H18 would be good, too?

Posted: **Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:56 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm27 Black 27 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O 3 . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . 1 . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

the few points on the side can be sacrificed. these stones cannot.

Posted: **Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:42 am**

Just to be clear, Shaddy's last diagram is what happened in the game.

Posted: **Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:07 am**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Black 31 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . X 1 . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I was 3-2 at a tournament on Saturday. Apparently I really am 2d AGA. So weird; I spent over a year each as a 2k and a 1k and only a few months as a 1d... The worst thing is I don't know what I know now that I didn't know then... :/

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:34 pm**

Does white connect at f15 now?

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:02 am**

Close.

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Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:22 am**

I started to say that C15 is obvious, but I think that Black can play K13 and deal with the bad shape if white connects at C15.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:13 am**

Got it in one.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Black 33 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . O X . O X X . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:12 pm**

W jumps, like to G11? Seems like W doesn't want a weak group on both sides, and this side seems more urgent.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:57 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Black 33 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X X . . O . X . O . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . O . . . X . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . 4 O X . O X X . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . O X . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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