[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . 1 2 . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
my move is better than playing at because it lives with more points.
The explanations with alot of diagrams are back! I hope they are right and I diddn't screw up and die again, although I am better at reading when there are more stones. this is a much easier problem than the mess i made in the bottom corner so I don't feel too scared
Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:21 am
by Sur
$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I should be satisfied with upper side, but some time ago I read this situation and I thought I would get to play M18 in sente against his weak group and get a free monkey jump. I don't know what went wrong, maybe just my reading
I have to find the biggest moves on the board now and I suck at this stage. I think he needs to protect against the peep and then I'll probably jump to tengen. Seems big. But it probably isn't as it's in the center. I promise to think more after his move and find something nice
Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:54 am
by speedchase
$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X 3 X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm lost here. I haven't played go at all recently and I'm very rusty at the moment. And this part of the game was my weakest to begin with. Anyway, I need to reduce him somehow and this doesn't look bad, maybe I'll even make some points myself.
Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:45 pm
by speedchase
$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . 5 . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 4 O 2 . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O X 1 O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . 3 . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . 5 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
No, white plays atari at , which takes aways b's eyes in sente, before connecting at . But even though b is locally dead white does end up with a cut so there is semeai aji.
Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:52 am
by Sur
$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . c b X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O a 8 0 . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . 9 X 6 7 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 2 4 5 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
black a white b black c. after the variation shown
I am hoping for thickness facing the opening in his moyo, so I am conceding some territory in able to get a good attack. I have noticed I am a good bit behind. This is sort of my last change to make a comeback
Re: 146- speedchase 8kyu versus sur 7k
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:38 am
by Sur
$$Bcm41 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X . X X . O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . X . O O . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O 0 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , O . O . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O X , O . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . X . O . . . . | $$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
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I hope they are right and I diddn't screw up and die again, although I am better at reading when there are more stones. this is a much easier problem than the mess i made in the bottom corner so I don't feel too scared
, which takes aways b's eyes in sente, before connecting at 
. But even though b is locally dead white does end up with a cut so there is semeai aji.
can be sacrificed, it is to small for him to take.