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155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:11 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:01 am
by mw42
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:41 pm
by Unicorn
Of Marcus' sequence, I'd want to keima at 64.
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If black cuts of the white stone with 65, I'd attack the black stone on the top with 66 and I'd still have aji the play at a and b to make use of that stone.

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:25 pm
by topazg
@Unicorn:

Unicorn wrote:
Of Marcus' sequence, I'd want to keima at 64.
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If black cuts of the white stone with 65, I'd attack the black stone on the top with 66 and I'd still have aji the play at a and b to make use of that stone.


I'm not sure how much aji there is at "b" whilst Black can cut that stone off ... one to the right of "b" maybe.

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:14 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:36 am
by mw42
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:42 am
by Magicwand
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:57 am
by mw42
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm
by Magicwand
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i think i am ahead in points.... i think i can finish him if i live in the corner.

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:27 am
by mw42
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:13 pm
by Magicwand
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:10 pm
by mw42
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:43 pm
by Celebrir
Is M13 a good move now ? Seems like a good reduction of blacks moyo

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:01 pm
by Shaddy
The corner isn't alive yet...

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:32 pm
by illluck
Corner isn't alive, but it's ko, so I think it's not big to play. I personally feel like black shouldn't have responded at P18.

I'm also not sure if M13 is bigger than Q8.
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