Re: 2nd Kuchinashi Tournament (4k-6k)
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:56 pm
by Nikolas73
I won the first round 2 game between Redundant and myself, the series is now 1-0. I'm not sure when our next game is, perhaps on the weekend. I will send you a message, Redundant.
Here is the SGF:
Here is the SGF:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[redundant]PB[Nikolas73]WR[4k]BR[5k]DT[2010-06-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Nikolas73 [5k\]: Have a good game
redundant [4k\]: you too
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1790.482]
;W[dp]WL[1797.139]
;B[qp]BL[1788.873]
;W[dc]WL[1793.372]
;B[oq]BL[1784.23]
;W[qj]WL[1789.599]
;B[ql]BL[1778.705]
;W[qf]WL[1786.619]
;B[nc]BL[1762.747]
;W[rd]WL[1779.457]
;B[qc]BL[1758.42]
;W[ph]WL[1778.319]
;B[de]BL[1744.478]
;W[cg]WL[1771.484]
;B[ec]BL[1709.479]
;W[dd]WL[1768.731]
;B[ed]BL[1708.192]
;W[ce]WL[1767.53]
;B[df]BL[1695.584]
;W[cf]WL[1763.379]
;B[ic]BL[1693.094]
;W[eb]WL[1757.26]
;B[fb]BL[1691.02]
;W[db]WL[1755.829]
;B[fe]BL[1688.499]
;W[dg]WL[1729.773]
;B[cn]BL[1682.825]C[Loons [4k\]: wrong direction ?
Loons [4k\]: pincer good move ?
Nakamura [7k\]: Yeah.
]
;W[cl]WL[1689.791]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Black is trying to take away the potential white side, but a pincer fits right into it
]
;B[en]BL[1671.965]
;W[fp]WL[1687.587]
;B[bp]BL[1668.888]
;W[cq]WL[1684.247]
;B[gn]BL[1649.162]
;W[hp]WL[1668.355]
;B[kq]BL[1646.324]
;W[iq]WL[1660.551]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this j3 is bad
Loons [4k\]: He could K4 instead? N3 ?
Loons [4k\]: J5 ? Split G6 off from the right ?
]
;B[cj]BL[1585.581]C[Shadonra [1d\]: thinking in the wrong place. e8
]
;W[dk]WL[1654.894]
;B[di]BL[1581.613]C[Nakamura [7k\]: I didn't think black was THIS daring. Pincering a pincer.
Shadonra [1d\]: see, this fight will be nasty
Nakamura [7k\]: If white's pincer group runs out, it kind of forces black's approach group to do so also, right?
Snowcat [5k?\]: is this a l19 tourney game?
]
;W[ej]WL[1571.959]C[Shadonra [1d\]: no, it's a kuchinashi game
]
;B[ei]BL[1572.81]C[LiKao [6k\]: kuchinashi ?
]
;W[gj]WL[1565.593]
;B[fi]BL[1556.414]C[Shadonra [1d\]: g8
]
;W[gl]WL[1539.59]
;B[fg]BL[1534.376]
;W[in]WL[1525.539]
;B[bq]BL[1531.057]
;W[br]WL[1522.568]C[Shadonra [1d\]: let's see if w can kill this
]
;B[cp]BL[1494.241]
;W[dq]WL[1518.936]
;B[bm]BL[1486.376]
;W[bl]WL[1508.072]
;B[bo]BL[1463.759]
;W[do]WL[1497.178]
;B[an]BL[1450.181]
;W[dn]WL[1494.283]
;B[dm]BL[1447.539]C[Nakamura [7k\]: O_o;;
]
;W[cm]WL[1490.612]
;B[co]BL[1397.431]
;W[mq]WL[1451.032]
;B[lp]BL[1359.01]
;W[mp]WL[1436.557]
;B[mo]BL[1347.286]
;W[op]WL[1435.665]C[Shadonra [1d\]: b goal here should be: get sente, reinforce top
]
;B[pp]BL[1334.735]
;W[no]WL[1433.297]
;B[mn]BL[1314.677]
;W[nn]WL[1424.929]
;B[nq]BL[1312.188]
;W[np]WL[1396.73]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: ohhh ... a chance to watch my Malkovich opponent.
]
;B[nm]BL[1285.829]C[Loons [4k\]: taking notes ?
]
;W[om]WL[1386.211]
;B[nl]BL[1282.084]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: heh
Marcus316 [4k\]: We need to finish our game soon.
]
;W[kr]WL[1328.68]C[Loons [4k\]: oh, yeah
Loons [4k\]: I have a test in an hour and a half though, so not now
]
;B[jr]BL[1240.268]
;W[ol]WL[1322.975]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: that's fine, just reminding you.
]
;B[pn]BL[1236.363]
;W[on]WL[1319.246]
;B[ok]BL[1233.492]
;W[lq]WL[1316.892]
;B[kp]BL[1223.275]
;W[pk]WL[1305.244]
;B[pl]BL[1218.803]
;W[nk]WL[1303.821]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: heh, crazy
]
;B[oj]BL[1206.024]
;W[nj]WL[1299.599]C[Loons [4k\]: I think that black stone dies
Loons [4k\]: This isn't how I would do it
Loons [4k\]: I would go for N9 forcing and then net it
]
;B[oi]BL[1177.646]
;W[ni]WL[1291.145]
;B[oh]BL[1169.45]
;W[mm]WL[1287.444]C[Shadonra [1d\]: he's not going for that stone
Marcus316 [4k\]: Yup
Marcus316 [4k\]: was waiting on that.
]
;B[ml]BL[1108.059]
;W[lm]WL[1285.258]
;B[ll]BL[1100.754]
;W[lo]WL[1273.914]
;B[kl]BL[1035.362]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: M2?
Shadonra [1d\]: seems pointless, b is dead
Loons [4k\]: Should only be 1 eye anyway eh
Loons [4k\]: Help O10 already?
Shadonra [1d\]: o10 looks pretty sick too
Shadonra [1d\]: hmm
]
;W[pg]WL[1189.083]C[Shadonra [1d\]: i saw that coming
]
;B[ng]BL[1020.598]
;W[og]WL[1182.759]
;B[nh]BL[1018.57]C[Shadonra [1d\]: so.. bets on how big the top is gonna be?
]
;W[ko]WL[1156.979]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: 45
Marcus316 [4k\]: Black will get 45 up top.
LiKao [6k\]: L5 looks unneccesarry
Shadonra [1d\]: i'm gonna go a little higher
Shadonra [1d\]: 75
]
;B[jh]BL[974.394]
;W[nf]WL[1153.58]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: now I'd say higher.
]
;B[mf]BL[971.081]
;W[ne]WL[1147.387]
;B[me]BL[969.489]C[Shadonra [1d\]: hey, that's my strategy
Shadonra [1d\]: b stole it
Marcus316 [4k\]: of course, I was assuming white somehow lived with the 3 O10 stones ... silly me.
]
;W[gi]WL[1108.441]C[Shadonra [1d\]: heh
]
;B[gh]BL[966.385]
;W[ik]WL[1072.818]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: K10
]
;B[jj]BL[958.19]
;W[hh]WL[1070.788]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: boom
]
;B[hg]BL[956.452]
;W[ih]WL[1067.261]
;B[ig]BL[955.153]
;W[rc]WL[1055.271]
;B[hm]BL[944.382]
;W[im]WL[1052.953]C[LiKao [6k\]: lol
Marcus316 [4k\]: ... odd
]
;B[hl]BL[936.707]C[Shadonra [1d\]: um.
]
;W[il]WL[1031.78]
;B[hk]BL[926.9]C[Shadonra [1d\]: oh
Shadonra [1d\]: i see
Marcus316 [4k\]: ah, F10
]
;W[ij]WL[1013.091]
;B[fj]BL[921.159]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: B eats more
]
;W[fk]WL[995.641]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: cut
]
;B[el]BL[916.2]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: no cut?
Shadonra [1d\]: cut in a second
Shadonra [1d\]: fix d7 in sente first
Marcus316 [4k\]: neat. This is why my middle game is weak
]
;W[ek]WL[946.663]
;B[gk]BL[910.622]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this is turning very bad for w very fast
]
;W[hj]WL[941.394]C[Shadonra [1d\]: e8, w dies
Marcus316 [4k\]: F8, but yes
Shadonra [1d\]: right!
Shadonra [1d\]: coordinates are stupid
]
;B[fl]BL[885.683]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: indeed
Marcus316 [4k\]: two eyes in there as well.
Marcus316 [4k\]: or, almost
Shadonra [1d\]: i don'
LiKao [6k\]: ctrl+click for coords
Shadonra [1d\]: almost, yes
]
;W[fm]WL[918.588]C[Loons [4k\]: E7 ?
]
;B[gm]BL[877.856]C[Nakamura [7k\]: I would play F7.
]
;W[fn]WL[915.182]
;B[fo]BL[872.182]C[Shadonra [1d\]: now there are 2 eyes
Marcus316 [4k\]: heh
Shadonra [1d\]: game over
Loons [4k\]: Oh, I though E7 worked for some reason
Nakamura [7k\]: Ah.
Loons [4k\]: shortage of liberties tesuji
]
;W[al]WL[853.825]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: hmmm
LiKao [6k\]: ^^
Shadonra [1d\]: clever
Marcus316 [4k\]: nice
Shadonra [1d\]: doesn't work
Loons [4k\]: ?
Shadonra [1d\]: but it was a nice throught
Shadonra [1d\]: thought
]
;B[am]BL[844.776]C[LiKao [6k\]: what did he think?
Marcus316 [4k\]: B11 doesn't work, if Black defends?
Shadonra [1d\]: b11
Loons [4k\]: Connect under I guess
Shadonra [1d\]: no, it doesn't
Marcus316 [4k\]: oh, B12, right?
Shadonra [1d\]: b10, a10, b12
Nakamura [7k\]: Doesn't D8 + E5 work for white?
Nakamura [7k\]: AH, I'ms tupid. Complicated.
]
;W[ai]WL[786.296]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this works even less
Marcus316 [4k\]: B12 still
]
;B[bi]BL[830.695]
;W[aj]WL[781.841]C[Shadonra [1d\]: yeah, that's fine
Marcus316 [4k\]: B12
]
;B[bh]BL[812.566]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: there
]
;W[jk]WL[768.547]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: M10
Shadonra [1d\]: l10 is fine
Marcus316 [4k\]: ah, I can see that
Marcus316 [4k\]: now
Marcus316 [4k\]: thank you
]
;B[kj]BL[767.145]
;W[kk]WL[763.006]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: once more into the breach!
]
;B[lk]BL[754.445]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: (M10 now)
Marcus316 [4k\]: well, that works, too
Nikolas73 [5k\]: Thanks
Marcus316 [4k\]: gg
redundant [4k\]: thanks
])
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[redundant]PB[Nikolas73]WR[4k]BR[5k]DT[2010-06-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Nikolas73 [5k\]: Have a good game
redundant [4k\]: you too
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1790.482]
;W[dp]WL[1797.139]
;B[qp]BL[1788.873]
;W[dc]WL[1793.372]
;B[oq]BL[1784.23]
;W[qj]WL[1789.599]
;B[ql]BL[1778.705]
;W[qf]WL[1786.619]
;B[nc]BL[1762.747]
;W[rd]WL[1779.457]
;B[qc]BL[1758.42]
;W[ph]WL[1778.319]
;B[de]BL[1744.478]
;W[cg]WL[1771.484]
;B[ec]BL[1709.479]
;W[dd]WL[1768.731]
;B[ed]BL[1708.192]
;W[ce]WL[1767.53]
;B[df]BL[1695.584]
;W[cf]WL[1763.379]
;B[ic]BL[1693.094]
;W[eb]WL[1757.26]
;B[fb]BL[1691.02]
;W[db]WL[1755.829]
;B[fe]BL[1688.499]
;W[dg]WL[1729.773]
;B[cn]BL[1682.825]C[Loons [4k\]: wrong direction ?
Loons [4k\]: pincer good move ?
Nakamura [7k\]: Yeah.
]
;W[cl]WL[1689.791]C[Nakamura [7k\]: Black is trying to take away the potential white side, but a pincer fits right into it
]
;B[en]BL[1671.965]
;W[fp]WL[1687.587]
;B[bp]BL[1668.888]
;W[cq]WL[1684.247]
;B[gn]BL[1649.162]
;W[hp]WL[1668.355]
;B[kq]BL[1646.324]
;W[iq]WL[1660.551]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this j3 is bad
Loons [4k\]: He could K4 instead? N3 ?
Loons [4k\]: J5 ? Split G6 off from the right ?
]
;B[cj]BL[1585.581]C[Shadonra [1d\]: thinking in the wrong place. e8
]
;W[dk]WL[1654.894]
;B[di]BL[1581.613]C[Nakamura [7k\]: I didn't think black was THIS daring. Pincering a pincer.
Shadonra [1d\]: see, this fight will be nasty
Nakamura [7k\]: If white's pincer group runs out, it kind of forces black's approach group to do so also, right?
Snowcat [5k?\]: is this a l19 tourney game?
]
;W[ej]WL[1571.959]C[Shadonra [1d\]: no, it's a kuchinashi game
]
;B[ei]BL[1572.81]C[LiKao [6k\]: kuchinashi ?
]
;W[gj]WL[1565.593]
;B[fi]BL[1556.414]C[Shadonra [1d\]: g8
]
;W[gl]WL[1539.59]
;B[fg]BL[1534.376]
;W[in]WL[1525.539]
;B[bq]BL[1531.057]
;W[br]WL[1522.568]C[Shadonra [1d\]: let's see if w can kill this
]
;B[cp]BL[1494.241]
;W[dq]WL[1518.936]
;B[bm]BL[1486.376]
;W[bl]WL[1508.072]
;B[bo]BL[1463.759]
;W[do]WL[1497.178]
;B[an]BL[1450.181]
;W[dn]WL[1494.283]
;B[dm]BL[1447.539]C[Nakamura [7k\]: O_o;;
]
;W[cm]WL[1490.612]
;B[co]BL[1397.431]
;W[mq]WL[1451.032]
;B[lp]BL[1359.01]
;W[mp]WL[1436.557]
;B[mo]BL[1347.286]
;W[op]WL[1435.665]C[Shadonra [1d\]: b goal here should be: get sente, reinforce top
]
;B[pp]BL[1334.735]
;W[no]WL[1433.297]
;B[mn]BL[1314.677]
;W[nn]WL[1424.929]
;B[nq]BL[1312.188]
;W[np]WL[1396.73]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: ohhh ... a chance to watch my Malkovich opponent.
]
;B[nm]BL[1285.829]C[Loons [4k\]: taking notes ?
]
;W[om]WL[1386.211]
;B[nl]BL[1282.084]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: heh
Marcus316 [4k\]: We need to finish our game soon.
]
;W[kr]WL[1328.68]C[Loons [4k\]: oh, yeah
Loons [4k\]: I have a test in an hour and a half though, so not now
]
;B[jr]BL[1240.268]
;W[ol]WL[1322.975]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: that's fine, just reminding you.
]
;B[pn]BL[1236.363]
;W[on]WL[1319.246]
;B[ok]BL[1233.492]
;W[lq]WL[1316.892]
;B[kp]BL[1223.275]
;W[pk]WL[1305.244]
;B[pl]BL[1218.803]
;W[nk]WL[1303.821]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: heh, crazy
]
;B[oj]BL[1206.024]
;W[nj]WL[1299.599]C[Loons [4k\]: I think that black stone dies
Loons [4k\]: This isn't how I would do it
Loons [4k\]: I would go for N9 forcing and then net it
]
;B[oi]BL[1177.646]
;W[ni]WL[1291.145]
;B[oh]BL[1169.45]
;W[mm]WL[1287.444]C[Shadonra [1d\]: he's not going for that stone
Marcus316 [4k\]: Yup
Marcus316 [4k\]: was waiting on that.
]
;B[ml]BL[1108.059]
;W[lm]WL[1285.258]
;B[ll]BL[1100.754]
;W[lo]WL[1273.914]
;B[kl]BL[1035.362]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: M2?
Shadonra [1d\]: seems pointless, b is dead
Loons [4k\]: Should only be 1 eye anyway eh
Loons [4k\]: Help O10 already?
Shadonra [1d\]: o10 looks pretty sick too
Shadonra [1d\]: hmm
]
;W[pg]WL[1189.083]C[Shadonra [1d\]: i saw that coming
]
;B[ng]BL[1020.598]
;W[og]WL[1182.759]
;B[nh]BL[1018.57]C[Shadonra [1d\]: so.. bets on how big the top is gonna be?
]
;W[ko]WL[1156.979]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: 45
Marcus316 [4k\]: Black will get 45 up top.
LiKao [6k\]: L5 looks unneccesarry
Shadonra [1d\]: i'm gonna go a little higher
Shadonra [1d\]: 75
]
;B[jh]BL[974.394]
;W[nf]WL[1153.58]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: now I'd say higher.
]
;B[mf]BL[971.081]
;W[ne]WL[1147.387]
;B[me]BL[969.489]C[Shadonra [1d\]: hey, that's my strategy
Shadonra [1d\]: b stole it
Marcus316 [4k\]: of course, I was assuming white somehow lived with the 3 O10 stones ... silly me.
]
;W[gi]WL[1108.441]C[Shadonra [1d\]: heh
]
;B[gh]BL[966.385]
;W[ik]WL[1072.818]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: K10
]
;B[jj]BL[958.19]
;W[hh]WL[1070.788]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: boom
]
;B[hg]BL[956.452]
;W[ih]WL[1067.261]
;B[ig]BL[955.153]
;W[rc]WL[1055.271]
;B[hm]BL[944.382]
;W[im]WL[1052.953]C[LiKao [6k\]: lol
Marcus316 [4k\]: ... odd
]
;B[hl]BL[936.707]C[Shadonra [1d\]: um.
]
;W[il]WL[1031.78]
;B[hk]BL[926.9]C[Shadonra [1d\]: oh
Shadonra [1d\]: i see
Marcus316 [4k\]: ah, F10
]
;W[ij]WL[1013.091]
;B[fj]BL[921.159]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: B eats more
]
;W[fk]WL[995.641]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: cut
]
;B[el]BL[916.2]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: no cut?
Shadonra [1d\]: cut in a second
Shadonra [1d\]: fix d7 in sente first
Marcus316 [4k\]: neat. This is why my middle game is weak
]
;W[ek]WL[946.663]
;B[gk]BL[910.622]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this is turning very bad for w very fast
]
;W[hj]WL[941.394]C[Shadonra [1d\]: e8, w dies
Marcus316 [4k\]: F8, but yes
Shadonra [1d\]: right!
Shadonra [1d\]: coordinates are stupid
]
;B[fl]BL[885.683]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: indeed
Marcus316 [4k\]: two eyes in there as well.
Marcus316 [4k\]: or, almost
Shadonra [1d\]: i don'
LiKao [6k\]: ctrl+click for coords
Shadonra [1d\]: almost, yes
]
;W[fm]WL[918.588]C[Loons [4k\]: E7 ?
]
;B[gm]BL[877.856]C[Nakamura [7k\]: I would play F7.
]
;W[fn]WL[915.182]
;B[fo]BL[872.182]C[Shadonra [1d\]: now there are 2 eyes
Marcus316 [4k\]: heh
Shadonra [1d\]: game over
Loons [4k\]: Oh, I though E7 worked for some reason
Nakamura [7k\]: Ah.
Loons [4k\]: shortage of liberties tesuji
]
;W[al]WL[853.825]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: hmmm
LiKao [6k\]: ^^
Shadonra [1d\]: clever
Marcus316 [4k\]: nice
Shadonra [1d\]: doesn't work
Loons [4k\]: ?
Shadonra [1d\]: but it was a nice throught
Shadonra [1d\]: thought
]
;B[am]BL[844.776]C[LiKao [6k\]: what did he think?
Marcus316 [4k\]: B11 doesn't work, if Black defends?
Shadonra [1d\]: b11
Loons [4k\]: Connect under I guess
Shadonra [1d\]: no, it doesn't
Marcus316 [4k\]: oh, B12, right?
Shadonra [1d\]: b10, a10, b12
Nakamura [7k\]: Doesn't D8 + E5 work for white?
Nakamura [7k\]: AH, I'ms tupid. Complicated.
]
;W[ai]WL[786.296]C[Shadonra [1d\]: this works even less
Marcus316 [4k\]: B12 still
]
;B[bi]BL[830.695]
;W[aj]WL[781.841]C[Shadonra [1d\]: yeah, that's fine
Marcus316 [4k\]: B12
]
;B[bh]BL[812.566]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: there
]
;W[jk]WL[768.547]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: M10
Shadonra [1d\]: l10 is fine
Marcus316 [4k\]: ah, I can see that
Marcus316 [4k\]: now
Marcus316 [4k\]: thank you
]
;B[kj]BL[767.145]
;W[kk]WL[763.006]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: once more into the breach!
]
;B[lk]BL[754.445]C[Marcus316 [4k\]: (M10 now)
Marcus316 [4k\]: well, that works, too
Nikolas73 [5k\]: Thanks
Marcus316 [4k\]: gg
redundant [4k\]: thanks
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