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Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:31 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm73 Move 73 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move threatens to disconnect his group, and at the same time develops my own shape. It also prevents him from playing here and profiting in the upper-right.

If he ignores:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 4 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So instead, he will probably play:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My only concern is that this move might be aji keshi. But I think its benefits outweigh its drawbacks. Hopefully I'm right.

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:50 am
by Kerby
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[go]$$Wcm74 Move 74 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ideas:
Solid play. If Husk Eagle chooses to tenuki I will cut him apart at "a" if he takes an other move to solidify I will either take "b" or continue a pressing attack. A probe at "c" will happen right after I get "b". The game is rapidly approaching endgame as the groups start to settle.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . c . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X a . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:07 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm75 Move 75 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I want to make some sort of shape in the center.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 . X . 5 . . O X T T |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . 4 3 B . O X T T |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X 1 . O . . . T |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 2 . O . . X . T |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he does play :w1: I can handle it very well. The two :bc: stones are not very valuable, especially given that I have made my own bit of territory on the :et: points.

Next, I want to get this move as a probe:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 1 . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he blocks on the left:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . 1 X . 2 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:b2: connects under perfectly, without damaging my corner and without ko.

Or, if he blocks on the right, I can destroy his left-side territory while making eyes.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . 2 . X . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:33 pm
by Kerby
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[go]$$Wcm76 Move 76 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ideas:
I fear if I attack I will end in a gote sequence I will take my big moves first then turn and see what I can do. This move will strengthen the left side, my bottom stones and make a little bit of territory all while attacking his bottom left. Its a great multipurpose move :) I guarantee Dusky beagle will feel insulted by my probe coming up in the upper left. Hopefully it will rattle him a bit. If I get a ko life sequence I will have tons of ko threats attacking his middle group.

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:02 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That move is wrong. It's fine when he doesn't have this stone below, but it's not good when he already has it.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Instead, he should have played this:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . 6 O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 5 O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 2 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I try to resist being pushed onto the second line, I will either die in the corner or lose the stones I resist with.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 4 O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 7 X 2 3 . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 6 5 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | 8 . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, his move is slack. However, it does carry it's own threat in it.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 5 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 3 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 1 2 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | 6 . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That's painful. So, I am forced to respond and prevent :w1: from being such a good move. Fortunately, I can do that in sente with my move, at the expense of making him stronger on the left. However, there is very little distance between the wall he gets from responding to my move and his current wall, so he doesn't gain very many points at all. His move hardly seems worth the price of sente.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . W . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Or he can play like below, but that leaves holes in his shape:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 O C . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:39 am
by Kerby
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[go]$$Wcm78 Move 78 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wasn't expecting this choice. It doesn't protect Dusky from the peep later on. I was expecting this which seems like a superior shape:
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now I still have a potential peep later at "a" I just have to be careful to watch my bottom left stones:
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . a . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to figure out how to best attack his group in the middle I think a peep is a good start:
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[go]$$Wcm78 Move 78 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . . . . . . X . a . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:15 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm79 Move 79 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He still has some weakness in this shape. My move minimizes his liberties on these two stones and maximizes the amount of points I keep in the corner. Now, will he follow-up with this descent or play elsewhere?

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:42 pm
by Kerby
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[go]$$Wcm80 Move 80 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probe first then fix my holes on the left side. He will respond at the top at a or b, b I have ko life, at a I just have lots of ko threats. I will turn and attack his middle stones after.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . b a . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X 3 O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:36 pm
by Shaddy
@Kerby:
If he plays b, how do you get a ko?

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:46 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm81 Move 81 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That move is just stupid. A move like that says that he is going to resign soon. The only valid threat that his move carries is him trying to get :w1: below in sente.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . 1 . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, so he might be able to get it, but it won't matter. :w3: will still be gote, and he will still be behind. If he actually expects :w80: to live, then he is both desperate and wrong.

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:07 pm
by Kerby
Shaddy wrote:@Kerby:
If he plays b, how do you get a ko?


Hey Shaddy,
Here is how I see it:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 1 . c . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . b 2 7 . a . 5 . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X 6 X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If "a" must win this ko:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . 8 . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | 4 2 X O . 1 . O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . 3 6 X . . X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . 7 X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"b" just seems alive to me:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . 1 X O . . 2 O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After looking at it again though I don't see a solution for him playing "c" though I can get a stronger wall/1,000,000 ko threats, if he played this choice I would attack his middle stones and aim for some territory in the center maybe like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . 1 . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X O 9 4 5 O . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X 7 2 X X X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X 6 3 . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . a . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 pm
by Shaddy
thanks kerby

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 pm
by Kerby
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[go]$$Wcm82 Move 82 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . 1 . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I decided I should attack his middle stones first, then fix my left side. Both are urgent, but I feel his middle stones are worth more. My bottom center is equal to his lower right and left corners. I need to make my 2 sides and center bigger then his top. Its going to be tough to do, but I think it is still possible. I have to be very careful and take my opportunities when I can.

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:22 pm
by Numsgil
Kerby wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm82 Move 82 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . 1 . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I decided I should attack his middle stones first, then fix my left side. Both are urgent, but I feel his middle stones are worth more. My bottom center is equal to his lower right and left corners. I need to make my 2 sides and center bigger then his top. Its going to be tough to do, but I think it is still possible. I have to be very careful and take my opportunities when I can.


Hey Kerby:
This move feels way out of left field, but after staring at it for a while it doesn't seem like black can contain it.

I'm wondering what made you think to even consider it. Is it a well known vulnerability of this sort of shape? It's not a move that would even show up on my radar.

Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:07 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm83 Move 83 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O 1 . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, now he's back where he needs to be if he wants to win the game. I guess :w80: was more of a probe than an actual attempt at living in the corner.

Basically, I think the game comes down to this: if he kills me, he will probably win. If I live, I will win. I think I have a pretty good shot at living right now. I will connect here and see how he plans to attack me.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 6 . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . 3 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X 1 4 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 2 O 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 9 . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He probably will not play :w1:, as this path doesn't look very promising for him.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . 5 X 9 O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . 6 4 3 1 8 X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O 2 X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . 0 . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He will lose a lot on the bottom this way.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Maybe he'll play this.

It should be interesting to see his next move!