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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:41 pm
by EdLee
Boidhre, also, a good habit for

is the 2nd line atari, not (a) (there are exceptions, of course):
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 2 1 4 , . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 3 X a O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 2 1 4 , . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 3 X a O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:56 pm
by Boidhre
I ordered some books because, eh, I felt like it.
Graded Go Problems for Beginners Volume 4 - This should be a tough book for me right now and the latter section being far too difficult I think. However I could have said the same when I bought Volume 3 and I solve most of that fairly comfortably now. A book to grow into, hopefully in the not too distant future.
The Theory and Practice of Tsumego - As I said in the other thread: Probably too difficult for me right now but the premise and contents sound fascinating and I think I'd like to read through it sooner rather than later. Plus it might surprise me and have a few section accessible to a weak sdk.
The Art of Positional Analysis - The guilty pleasure. I love the idea of this book, a collection of articles from Kido where various pros go through a series of games explaining how they do positional analysis in them. Almost certainly 2k+ stuff but I think it'd be interesting to read and play out a few of the games focusing purely on analysis of the positions.
I looked long and hard at the Life and Death book in the same series as the Positional Analysis one but it's dan level problems and really there's little point in me even looking at them right now I think. I don't actually think I
need any more books right now, but I like collecting books as a kind of side hobby to a hobby so I'm indulging myself here rather than getting things I think I need right now to improve. GGPFB 4 is perhaps justifiable, barely.

Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:44 pm
by Boidhre
I got hammered on wBaduk as a 16k.
The game was odd, we were playing with very long time settings, 5 mins + 60s x 10 (opponents choice). My opponent kept not playing for minutes on end, their clock would run down into byo and they'd lose a few periods. Then they'd play a move and their main time would reset to 5 minutes (byo staying as they were 60/7 or whatever). It was quite annoying to play against. Sometimes 20-40 moves would play quickly then 6-7 minutes wait for a move, and often just a standard joseki move or similar, in the more complicated parts of the game they often moved quite quickly so I don't think they were abusing the clock for reading time. The clock resetting though was very odd.
Anyway, the game, as you can see I got outplayed quite badly. Though my two large screw ups padded the margin of victory a bit.
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2954
Playing on the iPad was nice, having to manually input the game into GoWrite afterwards was not so good.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:44 am
by Bill Spight
A few comments.
(;GM[1]SZ[19]FF[4]ST[2]CA[UTF-8]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]PM[2]FG[259:]OT[10x60 Byo-yomi ]RE[B+29 ]WR[16k]PB[Other]TM[300.0]BR[17k]PW[Boidhre 16k]GN[wBaduk Game ]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[qp]
;W[dd]
;B[nd]
;W[pf]
;B[kd]
;W[nq]
;B[or]C[I had no idea what to do here, I thought playing P3 would turn into a horrible mess for me.]
(
;W[nr]C[*** But this is problematic.]
;B[oq]C[*** Because it allows this. Now a hane does not look good.]
;W[jq]
;B[gq]
;W[np]C[I thought the hane at the head of two here would be very painful. ]
;B[qm]
(
;W[cn]C[*** What if you want to invade on the 3-3 or attach on C-04 instead? See variation.]
;B[co]
;W[dn]
;B[cf]
;W[ch]
;B[cc]C[Probably the wrong pincer, I thought about C10 since it'd kill two birds with one stone but I wanted sente to play E4.
*** First, you can play E-04 anyway. Second, why? When you can play C-03, F-03, E-03, E-02, G-02, maybe others. ]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ec]C[This is where your opponent disappearing for several minutes and you playing a move that you were telling yourself not to play happens.
*** When you tell yourself not to play a move, you keep it in mind.]
;B[bd]C[This intrigued me, I felt there was a weakness but I couldn't spot it. So I decided to play it safe. ]
;W[ed]
;B[be]
;W[bc]C[This was a misread. ]
;B[bb]
(
;W[db]C[*** See variation.]
;B[cb]
;W[ic]C[*** How do you assess this position?]
;B[pc]
;W[qc]
;B[pb]
(
;W[qd]C[I think this was a mistake.
*** See variation.]
;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[cj]
(
;W[ei]C[*** Funny play. It does not really threaten the invader, nor does it help the two White stones. See variation.]
;B[ej]
(
;W[di]C[*** Strengthens Black. Makes the previous White move look bad. See variation.]
;B[dj]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fp]
;B[fq]
;W[do]
;B[cp]
(
;W[fn]C[I don't like my play here much. I think not getting the hane in at F10 was very big.
*** See variations.
Now go to move 114.]
;B[gj]
;W[ef]C[I thought this connected me but D13 is painful here and solves his weak group problem in the middle.
*** How do you assess this position?
Now go back to move 32. End of comments.]
;B[eb]
;W[fb]
;B[da]
;W[qi]C[This move. Well, black playing here or one above it is nasty but there's a weak groupp I should be harassing in the middle. ]
;B[fi]
;W[fh]
;B[gh]
;W[fg]C[Painful. ]
;B[ip]
;W[jp]
;B[io]
;W[fk]
;B[fj]
;W[gk]C[Trying to sketch out some eyespace and stop a connection between bottom and middle. ]
;B[rj]
;W[ri]
;B[qj]
;W[pj]
;B[pk]
;W[ok]
;B[pl]
;W[oj]
;B[jc]
;W[id]
;B[jb]
;W[mf]C[I was happy with this sequence. ]
;B[ij]
;W[il]
;B[jn]
;W[jk]
;B[jj]
;W[jf]
;B[kf]
;W[kg]
;B[lf]
;W[lg]
;B[je]
;W[ie]
;B[lj]
;W[ll]
;B[jg]
;W[if]
;B[jh]
;W[mg]
;B[dl]
;W[el]
;B[cl]
;W[md]
;B[mc]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[me]
;B[ke]
;W[jd]
;B[kc]
;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
;W[om]C[*** How do you assess this position?
Now go back to move 52.]
;B[ln]
;W[jo]
;B[im]
;W[hn]
;B[in]
;W[hm]
;B[nn]
;W[pp]
;B[pq]
;W[no]
;B[ol]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[mn]
;B[mo]
;W[mm]
;B[ko]
;W[mp]
;B[lo]
;W[km]
;B[kn]
;W[kk]
;B[kj]
;W[mi]
;B[mk]
;W[hp]
;B[iq]
;W[jr]
;B[hq]
;W[ib]
;B[gg]
;W[gf]
;B[dg]
;W[eh]
;B[ci]
;W[cg]
;B[df]
;W[dh]
;B[ir]
;W[kp]
;B[lp]
;W[lq]
;B[hl]
;W[hk]
;B[gl]
;W[ik]
;B[hj]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]
;W[ne]
;B[od]
;W[oe]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]
;B[ja]
;W[hb]
;B[ig]
;W[hf]
;B[nb]
;W[bg]
;B[bi]
;W[bf]
;B[ce]
;W[bn]
;B[bo]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]
;W[am]
;B[ho]
;W[gn]
;B[go]
;W[fo]
;B[gp]
;W[sj]
;B[rk]
;W[sk]
;B[sl]
;W[si]
;B[rl]
;W[fa]
;B[ea]
;W[is]
;B[hs]
;W[js]
;B[ns]
;W[ms]
;B[os]
;W[mr]
;B[ra]
;W[sb]
;B[af]
;W[ag]
;B[ae]
;W[ai]
;B[aj]
;W[ah]
;B[ao]
;W[li]
;B[kh]
;W[lk]
;B[mj]
;W[ml]
;B[nk]
;W[op]
;B[ni]
(
;W[nh]C[\:(]
;B[pi]
;W[oi]
;B[ph]
;W[qh]
;B[oh]
;W[og]
;B[nj]
;W[pg]
;B[lh]
;W[mh]
;B[ki]
;W[jm]
;B[em]
;W[dm]
;B[ek]
;W[fl]
;B[ak]
;W[rc]
;B[ac]
;W[de]
;B[al]
;W[bm]
;B[pm]
;W[sa]
;B[qa]
;W[eg]
)
(
;PM[2]FG[259:]
;W[pi]
;B[nj]
;W[nh]
;B[oi]
;W[oh]C[Yeah. Reading is handy I hear. ]
)
)
(
;W[fm]C[*** A bit better.]
)
(
;W[fj]C[*** OK, you have gotten your kikashi. Now to attack. May be an overplay.]
(
;B[fk]
;W[gk]
(
;B[fl]
;W[dl]
)
(
;B[el]
;W[fm]
)
)
(
;B[el]
;W[fm]
)
)
)
(
;W[fj]
;B[ek]
;W[fn]
)
)
(
;W[oc]C[*** One possibility.]
;B[od]
;W[nb]
;B[nc]
;W[ob]
;B[mb]
;W[qa]
)
(
;W[ek]C[***]
)
)
(
;W[od]
;B[nc]
)
)
(
;W[cb]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[ca]
;W[ic]
)
)
(
;W[cj]
)
)
(
;W[oq]C[*** The opponent's play is my play. ]
(
;B[pq]C[*** Now if White had started with the keima, the underneath hane looks like it helps White.]
;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[nr]
;W[pp]
;B[qq]
;W[mq]
;B[qm]
)
(
;B[pr]
;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pm]
)
)
)
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:34 am
by Boidhre
Comments at 32, 52 and 114. Thanks Bill.
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2955
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:23 pm
by oren
Boidhre wrote:Playing on the iPad was nice, having to manually input the game into GoWrite afterwards was not so good.
Maybe try Tygem or IGS, so you can get the files from a computer client later?
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:25 pm
by Boidhre
oren wrote:Boidhre wrote:Playing on the iPad was nice, having to manually input the game into GoWrite afterwards was not so good.
Maybe try Tygem or IGS, so you can get the files from a computer client later?
I was having a problem with IGS, I had to log into Net Social Plaza to get at the sgf files but when I tried to log into it I got redirected to a page in Japanese asking for a Membership Number. I think this has something to do with some paid newsletter or something. I don't know. Tygem later tonight anyway.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:32 pm
by oren
Boidhre wrote:I was having a problem with IGS, I had to log into Net Social Plaza to get at the sgf files but when I tried to log into it I got redirected to a page in Japanese asking for a Membership Number. I think this has something to do with some paid newsletter or something. I don't know. Tygem later tonight anyway.
Way back when they had automail which was great. After every game, you would just get your sgf in email. I think it's been disabled though, but someone else can correct me on that.
The net social plaza is working for me right now. I've heard people having the same problems you said though.
Tygem is always fun and tons of players.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:44 pm
by Boidhre
oren wrote:Way back when they had automail which was great. After every game, you would just get your sgf in email. I think it's been disabled though, but someone else can correct me on that.
The net social plaza is working for me right now. I've heard people having the same problems you said though.
Tygem is always fun and tons of players.
Yeah as far as I know, IGS is paid for in Japan but free internationally, but I'm logging in from an Irish IP so I don't see why this would cause problems.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:57 pm
by Boidhre
So. Small update.
I haven't been playing much, my sleep was very disturbed for the past week and I felt my concentration was poor and combined with a constant headache playing games wasn't going to happen. I have been doing tsumego, reading some theory (on tsumego) and playing through some commented pro games. All enjoyable things to be doing. It's very nice after a long depression to take a break for an hour and enjoy doing some problems or playing through a game. My actual play at the moment is not pleasing to me, but I suppose if my play ever is very pleasing to me I'll probably have far less interest in doing things to improve.
My son asked to do tsumego. His interest in go has been waxing and waning over the past year, me getting depressed for long periods and not encouraging him either way doesn't help. So I got him Essential Life & Death 1, it has some nice cartoons on the cover and the problems and language used is simple and crucially there's no answers in it which prevents him from cheating. He likes to lay the problems out on the board and play out sequences trying to live or die. He is very much a 30k player at the moment and honestly I don't care if he gets strong or not, I just think it's healthy for a six year old to play something like go or chess. My daughter likes making patterns with the stones, or confidently placing a stone on the first line when I'm playing a game with someone (always the first line for some reason). She's too young at 3 to play the real game I think but as soon as she's a bit older I'll probably teach her how to play.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:43 pm
by Boidhre
I had a pleasant afternoon meeting with Tom today. Nice chat and a fun game. I got off to a terrible start and pretty much couldn't claw my way back from there, he's at least 3 stones stronger than me now I think, we did play on 4 stones last Sunday but that was a bit one sided and many things died, so we tried three today and he won comfortably. We discussed the game afterwards, there were quite a few plays we both missed to the other person, me more than Tom, and we think it's a timing issue as in, I know X move is big but it's gote, let's try to squeeze in another play in before getting to it and this blowing up in our faces.
My study has been been a bit haphazard of late, I'm doing some tsumego but not consistently enough I think. I keep jumping from doing a couple of life and death problems, to a few endgame problems to some tesuji problems and end up getting fewer done than if I'd decided on one type and stuck with it each day. I'm not getting many games in either which isn't good. However what little I am doing is enjoyable and I feel like my grasp of the game is improving somewhat rather than declining so I can't complain too much.
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2993
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:21 pm
by Bill Spight
A couple of comments.
(;ST[2]FF[4]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]SZ[19]GM[1]CA[UTF-8]PM[2]PW[Tom]PL[W]FG[259:]PB[Padraig]HA[3]KM[0.5]RU[Japanese Rules]DT[2013-05-15]GN[2013-05-15a]AB[dd][dp][pd]
;W[pp]
;B[qn]
;C[So, I decided to try and keep the game simple here by responding on the left rather than the double kakari on the right. ]W[cn]
;B[fq]
;W[nq]
;B[rp]
;W[qm]
;C[Too soon, I should have replied to R7 first.
*** Q-07, yes.]B[qq]
;W[qo]
;B[ro]
;C[Myself and Tom thought this was the wrong atari when we went over the game afterwards. ]W[rn]
;B[pn]
;W[rm]
;B[po]
;W[pq]
;B[qp]
;W[pm]
(
;C[This was silliness on my part. Q7 was very much sente here. ]B[pr]
;W[or]
;B[qr]
;W[nn]
(
;C[*** Let it be. See variations.]B[no]
;W[mo]
;B[np]
;C[I've no good move here really because of the shortage of liberties in the Q5 group. Fortunately I completely misread the situation and blunder badly removing the need for me to make bad shape.
*** See variation.]W[mp]
(
;B[mq]
;W[oo]
;B[on]
;W[om]
;B[qo]
;W[op]
;C[There's an error here in the recorded game, I connected at R5 and then Tom took at P4 before I played R14.
The end result I've given White wonderful thickness in exchange for a fairly small corner. If I had responded to R7 initially the result would have been better than in game.
Here, I could not decide whether it was bigger to harass the C6 stone a bit or prevent the approach from the bottom to Q14. I went with the more passive option which I'm beginning to recognise as a worrying trait of mine.
*** I have corrected the game record. And this move is OK .]B[qf]
;W[qh]
(
;C[Do I need to do this? I don't think so but it does secure the corner. It might be too slow at this point in the game though.
*** White has almost caught up. This is a single purpose move. See variation.
End of comments.]B[oc]
;W[cf]
;B[ch]
;W[cj]
;B[eh]
;W[ef]
;B[fd]
;W[gh]
;B[fg]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[df]
;W[cc]
;C[This move, my thoughts were it is slow but it removes a lot of aji here and allows E10 to be played without complications. Perhaps too slow again though. ]B[cg]
;W[bp]
;B[cq]
;W[hq]
;C[Passive. I had vague notions of wanting a strong group in this corner because of White's thickness to the right so I could press on the left group of white and develop the centre somewhat. ]B[bq]
;W[en]
;B[ej]
;W[jc]
;B[dc]
;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[je]
;W[mc]
;B[md]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[le]
;B[lf]
;W[gc]
;B[fc]
;W[he]
;B[kc]
;W[jd]
;B[ke]
;W[kd]
;B[ie]
;W[hd]
;B[hf]
;W[oh]
;B[fo]
;W[dk]
;B[fn]
;W[em]
;B[ip]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[in]
;W[jo]
;C[This exchange might have been really bad but the only way I could see back into the game was to take as much as the centre as I could whilst limiting his growth there. ]B[hn]
;C[So, so big. ]W[mh]
;B[jn]
;W[ko]
;B[kh]
;W[lg]
;B[kg]
;W[mf]
;B[kf]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[oe]
;B[nf]
;W[of]
;B[mg]
;W[ng]
;B[mf]
;W[gf]
;B[gg]
;W[gl]
;B[fk]
;W[fl]
;B[gk]
;W[lh]
;B[pg]
;W[og]
;B[ph]
;W[pi]
;B[od]
;W[qi]
;B[mb]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[kb]
;B[ni]
;W[oi]
;B[li]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[rf]
;B[qd]
;W[re]
;B[rd]
;W[nh]
;B[nj]
;W[hk]
;B[hl]
;W[ek]
;B[fj]
;W[ki]
;B[lj]
;W[hg]
;B[if]
;W[ge]
;B[ic]
;W[id]
;B[gb]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[il]
;B[hc]
;W[ja]
;B[hj]
;W[hm]
;B[ij]
;W[ji]
;B[hh]
;W[ok]
;B[jk]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[pf]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]
;B[co]
;W[ao]
;B[cp]
;W[aq]
;B[ar]
;W[an]
;B[ap]
;W[sd]
;B[sc]
;W[se]
;B[rc]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]
;W[fs]
;B[es]
;W[gs]
;B[er]
;W[ps]
;B[sr]
;W[ll]
;B[nk]
;W[nl]
;B[lk]
;W[kl]
;B[gp]
;W[iq]
;B[gq]
;W[hr]
;B[bj]
;W[bi]
;B[ci]
;W[bk]
;B[bh]
;W[aj]
;B[bf]
;W[ae]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[af]
;W[ab]
;B[ff]
;W[ah]
;B[bg]
;W[jl]
;B[oj]
;W[pj]
;B[kk]
;W[kn]
;B[qs]
;W[dj]
;B[di]
;W[la]
;B[ma]
;W[ka]
;B[ha]
;W[ia]
;C[This sequence didn't actually happen as described earlier. ]B[qo]
;W[op]
;C[This was nonsense be me, I thought there was something on the left here but I was mistaken. ]B[nr]
;W[os]
;B[jq]
;W[jp]
;B[ns]
;W[oq]
;B[lr]
;W[lq]
;B[ms]
;W[rb]
;B[oa]
;W[sb]
;B[qb]
;W[ad]
;B[kq]
;W[lp]
;C[Just not concentrating at this point. ]B[km]
;W[jm]
;B[lm]
;W[ml]
;B[gd]
;W[ik]
;B[jj]
;W[eo]
;B[ep]
;W[do]
;B[gm]
;W[fm]
;B[gn]
;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[sn]
;B[da]
;W[ca]
;B[ea]
;W[im]
;B[fe]
)
(
;C[*** A dual purpose move, making a framework while attacking. Black still has chances.]B[cj]
)
)
(
;B[oq]
;W[op]
;B[oo]
;W[oq]
;B[mq]
;W[on]
;B[qo]
;W[lq]
;B[mr]
;W[lr]
;B[os]
;W[ms]
;B[nr]
;C[*** White is thick.]W[mn]
)
)
(
;B[cj]
)
(
;B[qg]
)
)
(
;B[nn]
(
;W[no]
;B[mo]
;W[mp]
;B[lo]
;W[om]
;B[on]
(
;W[qh]
;B[kq]
)
(
;W[kq]
;B[pi]
)
)
(
;W[om]
;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[pi]
)
)
)
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:27 pm
by Boidhre
Thank you kindly Bill.
Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:35 pm
by Boidhre
Just myself and Tom today at the club, we played one blitz game where I took 9 stones and one slow even game. Predictable results in both were achieved. Overall I'm not doing great mentally at the moment, just normal problems rather than illness related I think, I'm not focussing well and I'm not getting much of anything done, obviously this impacts on go related activities. I'm not playing anywhere near enough go but I'm having a lot of fun when I'm playing it so it's ok. This game was a bit of a mess for me, Black was behind from very early on and the gap widened from there, that didn't bother me I was playing even with someone who can give me 3 stones, what got to me was my move selection at certain fairly key points in the game. I played some very slow moves in the midgame and a few absurdly hopeful moves too (sente mirages I tend to think of them as). I tried experimenting with tenuki'ing more in this game and it lead to interesting results. Breaking somewhat more my habit of being, in poker terms, a calling station might be worth a stone for me I think if I can get a better feel for when I'll get away with tenuki.
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3038
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:27 pm
by EdLee
Boidhre, especially

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