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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I don't know what is correct, but I don't think I need to respond to his move.
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let's go and raise the burden on each other..
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Clearly, this group is the one that needs the most help...
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Imo, most of Kirby's 3 stone advantage is gone. The entire bottom half of the board looks really ugly for black...as if the stones have no clear goal at all.
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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If B replies to the peep :wc:, it seems sente:
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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@EdLee
You speak truth :P
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I think White can win the liberty race.

Too bad there's like no cut.
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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yithril wrote: @ obs
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I think White can win the liberty race.

Too bad there's like no cut.
How about this?
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[go]$$Bcm1 6 and 10 connect
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Black gives up the three stones on the right side but ends up with a lot of thickness in the center, having eliminated the bad aji in the bottom left. I think 9 next would be a good choice, but there are various alternatives. The peep at "a" promises trouble on the left in the future now that the D6 stone is secure.
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yithril,
Thanks; sometimes I get lucky. :mrgreen:
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I haven't forgotten about this game, either. I have some thoughts on this game, but I want to wait until I've moved along with my game against Marcus.

I thought playing 3 Malkovich games at the same time was manageable, but I'm thinking that it is too distracting to play multiple games simultaneously.

Once I can clear my mind from my game against Marcus, I can put 100% focus on this game. I might play a basic move like Q12, but I'd better come up with a plan, first.
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ez4u wrote:
yithril wrote: @ obs
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I think White can win the liberty race.

Too bad there's like no cut.
How about this?
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[go]$$Bcm1 6 and 10 connect
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 6 and 10 connect
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Black gives up the three stones on the right side but ends up with a lot of thickness in the center, having eliminated the bad aji in the bottom left. I think 9 next would be a good choice, but there are various alternatives. The peep at "a" promises trouble on the left in the future now that the D6 stone is secure.
Fine ten, read further why don't you :P
Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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