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Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:50 am
by rubin427
pwaldron wrote:The AGA in its current state is dysfunctional--it is incapable of taking an idea (good, bad or the best) and pushing it forward to completion.
Let me provide evidence to the contrary.
1) About 20 months ago, I suggested a
fundraising idea for the AGA.
2) When I went to congress in 2010, the idea had already been picked up by the board, and was slowly moving forward.
3)That idea has now
been implemented.
I would like to emphasize that I didn't do jack. I just had the idea and it worked it's way up through the system and became reality.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:48 pm
by vash3g
rubin427 wrote:pwaldron wrote:The AGA in its current state is dysfunctional--it is incapable of taking an idea (good, bad or the best) and pushing it forward to completion.
Let me provide evidence to the contrary.
While this is a one-off score, it was picked up by a desperate development committee (headed by a board member) and they ran with it. I can honestly not remember a successful goal that came from the top. I only remember successes that came from the bottom and were forced/begged to the top.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:50 am
by rubin427
vash3g wrote:I can honestly not remember a successful goal that came from the top.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with that.
vash3g wrote:I only remember successes that came from the bottom and were forced/begged to the top.
You and I have very different expectations from a non-profit, volunteer based organization. I would assume that success being fostered from the bottom up would be considered natural and positive.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:11 am
by daniel_the_smith
The original source of a goal/priority/task/etc is inconsequential. The important thing is that the organization as a whole is capable of (1) identifying useful things to do, and then (2) actually doing them. IMO, we haven't seen a great deal of either step from the AGA over and above the minimum.
You should expect some visionary thinking from those in charge. But it's totally OK if they didn't come up with the ANY of the elements of their grand plan on their own. Criticize us for the net deficiency in visionary thinking and subsequent accomplishments; that would be totally fair, but it doesn't sound like the criticism you're making.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:17 am
by pwaldron
daniel_the_smith wrote:You should expect some visionary thinking from those in charge. But it's totally OK if they didn't come up with the ANY of the elements of their grand plan on their own. Criticize us for the net deficiency in visionary thinking and subsequent accomplishments; that would be totally fair, but it doesn't sound like the criticism you're making.
Agreed. Delivery is what matters, although the topic of visionary leadership brings this to mind...
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:38 pm
by daniel_the_smith
The board voted to try and accomplish 5 things before the next congress, including (one of) my suggestions of improving the member experience. Allen, Lisa, and I are supposed to have a discussion about which of the sub-points I listed would be best to focus on. I'll keep you posted.
(The other four were fundraising, finding new methods to market go and increase membership, rank certification, and the hopefully-upcoming American pro system.)
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:21 am
by pwaldron
It's an ambitious list, but it's good to aim high. I (and I'm sure others) will watch closely for updates.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:21 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Nice goals.
Can you define them a bit more? ( I mean "improving the member experience" sounds great, but what does it involve? Beer and hookers? )
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:18 pm
by jts
Joaz Banbeck wrote:( I mean "improving the member experience" sounds great, but what does it involve? Beer and hookers? )
Please. Go is one of the highest blossomings of mankind's aesthetic yearnings. We need to conduct ourselves with a dignity appropriate to the rich cultural traditions of the game. Crude behavior and crude moves go hand in hand.
So we shouldn't settle for anything less than sake and geisha.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:58 am
by daniel_the_smith
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Nice goals.
Can you define them a bit more? ( I mean "improving the member experience" sounds great, but what does it involve? Beer and hookers? )
Well, for that one, I can repeat the list I gave. Lisa, Allen, and I are supposed to discuss it in more detail and pick a few.
me wrote:1. Fix the AGA "user experience."
* Make interacting with the AGA as easy as possible (example: no one had been looking at the email to the webmaster while the position was vacant; lots of requests had gone unnoticed for months).
* Don't overload/overwork volunteers; make sure volunteers get public recognition.
* Improve/fix/change whatever the AGA does now to make a system which: a) notices when a volunteer goes AWOL and recovers, b) doesn't make volunteers feel like we don't trust them, and c) reduces the chance that volunteers will go AWOL.
* Create a "How to run an AGA chapter" document. Send it to new chapters. (method: task someone with soliciting feedback from current chapter reps and compiling it. Have someone else edit it.)
* Create a chapter mentorship system. Obtain and publish a list of chapter reps who are willing and able to help new chapters get started. Make sure everyone knows who to contact when they have a question they don't know the answer to.
* Announce our goals in the ejournal so members can hold us accountable. Inform the membership about what the board is doing; I think there ought to be a position, held by one of the board members, with a job description of keeping members informed. This person would do things like write press releases for the ejournal, etc. Posting the minutes to the website is not enough; people don't read them and they're a month behind anyway. If you all agree, I'll volunteer.
For the other goals, no list like the above was behind them. You'll have to judge from the minutes how well defined you think they are. IMO one of them has an under-specified success condition.
The board meeting was quite long, we spent a lot of time discussing this, and perhaps even more discussing some policies Gordon has recommended we implement. (We voted to send the policies to the policy and governance committee for review. HKA, if you're lurking-- hide, they're coming for you.
)
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:14 am
by vash3g
daniel_the_smith wrote:Well, for that one, I can repeat the list I gave. Lisa, Allen, and I are supposed to discuss it in more detail and pick a few.
I like that only two board members (the new ones) and the president are on that list [/sarcasm]
daniel_the_smith wrote:The board meeting was quite long, we spent a lot of time discussing this, and perhaps even more discussing some policies Gordon has recommended we implement. (We voted to send the policies to the policy and governance committee for review. HKA, if you're lurking-- hide, they're coming for you.
)
I do believe HKA resigned from that committee, you'll have to find some other old aga volunteer to contact from that committee.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:57 am
by daniel_the_smith
vash3g wrote:daniel_the_smith wrote:Well, for that one, I can repeat the list I gave. Lisa, Allan, and I are supposed to discuss it in more detail and pick a few.
I like that only two board members (the new ones) and the president are on that list [/sarcasm]
Well, to be fair, it
was my list, and Lisa had spoke up about it also. And honestly, the fewer people in such discussions the more productive they tend to be, so I'm not complaining. Also: Andy has his hands full with the developing pro system. Gordon wanted to turn the list we voted on into a strategic plan and will be putting together some sort of proposal along those lines for the next board meeting. To be fair the other way, Andy, myself, Lisa and Allan were the only ones to suggest priorities.
vash3g wrote:daniel_the_smith wrote:The board meeting was quite long, we spent a lot of time discussing this, and perhaps even more discussing some policies Gordon has recommended we implement. (We voted to send the policies to the policy and governance committee for review. HKA, if you're lurking-- hide, they're coming for you.
)
I do believe HKA resigned from that committee, you'll have to find some other old aga volunteer to contact from that committee.
Yes, they're aware of that. Some on the board seem to think it works like the voting register in Chicago (for those of you who haven't lived around here: even dying doesn't always get your name off the list).
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:24 am
by Yertle
daniel_the_smith wrote:
I do believe HKA resigned from that committee, you'll have to find some other old aga volunteer to contact from that committee.
Yes, they're aware of that. Some on the board seem to think it works like the voting register in Chicago (for those of you who haven't lived around here: even dying doesn't always get your name off the list).
After 2 months as webmaster something I would really appreciate is an org chart of some type that a) is relatively current so we know if the post has a warm body or someone on the dead list and b) gives some idea who is responsible for what. I get quite a few inquiries and it's pretty sad that I have no clue where to send people where I know someone will answer. I get the strong sense that nobody really knows who is responsible for what which leads to frustration and a lack of accountability. It seems sometimes that a person is supposed to be in charge of something but they are absent and some random person picked up the flag but nobody outside a small group knows it.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:28 am
by pwaldron
Yertle wrote:After 2 months as webmaster something I would really appreciate is an org chart of some type <snip>
That seems like a job that the volunteer coordinator can help with.
Re: AGA priorities
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:53 am
by xed_over
pwaldron wrote:Yertle wrote:After 2 months as webmaster something I would really appreciate is an org chart of some type <snip>
That seems like a job that the volunteer coordinator can help with.
I'd bet he has the same issue