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Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:43 am
by emeraldemon
hyperpape wrote:Funny, I had thought both ideas were already in effect.
I guess I meant something like "once per month, you can have up to 3 free player trades". In the initial rules I wrote up a tax to keep people from trading too frequently on upcoming matches.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:48 am
by hyperpape
emeraldemon wrote:
hyperpape wrote:Funny, I had thought both ideas were already in effect.
I guess I meant something like "once per month, you can have up to 3 free player trades". In the initial rules I wrote up a tax to keep people from trading too frequently on upcoming matches.
I'm not sure I'd want that. Too frequent trades encourages gaming based on the upcoming matches. My ideal would be a yearly draft.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:53 am
by Marcus
hyperpape wrote:
emeraldemon wrote:
hyperpape wrote:Funny, I had thought both ideas were already in effect.
I guess I meant something like "once per month, you can have up to 3 free player trades". In the initial rules I wrote up a tax to keep people from trading too frequently on upcoming matches.
I'm not sure I'd want that. Too frequent trades encourages gaming based on the upcoming matches. My ideal would be a yearly draft.
I think something like seasonal draft (maybe 6 months; a year is a long time, but is also possible), where you can trade your players out and get new ones at an updated pricing list.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:29 am
by shapenaji
But if new players join, won't we be entering with advance information of who's doing well? shouldn't the prices per player change based on their current standings?

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:13 am
by hyperpape
Six months is probably enough. A year has the advantage that since most of the tournaments have yearly cycles, you have almost zero information about who will be playing where.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:55 am
by emeraldemon
shapenaji wrote:But if new players join, won't we be entering with advance information of who's doing well? shouldn't the prices per player change based on their current standings?
Well my first instinct was not to award latecomers points for events that have already occurred. But given how far along we are, that'd be a pretty huge handicap. I'll have to think about this a bit more.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:53 am
by emeraldemon
Ok, I've added all the Nongshim games, the first Samsung Final game, and the two Meijin league games so far:

points earned by pro:
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Park Yeonghun : 8
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Cho U : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Cho Hanseung : 4
Xie He : 3
Won Sungjin : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Iyama Yuta : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Kono Rin : 1
player standings:
prokofiev : 46
Laman : 40
jordus : 39
hyperpape : 39
daal : 31
Barrauss : 27
lovely : 25
Araban : 24
topazg : 23
marcus : 18
hailthorn011 : 15
Stevenson : 15
lindentree : 14
daniel_the_smith : 2
Here's the Samsung final game, Won Sungjin vs. Gu Li:



It's a pretty epic full-board battle, of course I'd expect no less from Gu Li.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:57 am
by Laman
emeraldemon wrote:Ok, I've added all the Nongshim games, the first Samsung Final game, and the two Meijin league games so far: ...
you've missed the second Samsung game, won by Gu Li. tomorrow there is going to be the last one, check trout's thread for result

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:58 pm
by emeraldemon
Thanks Laman, seems Mr Kin's is always a few days behind...

points earned by pro:
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Park Yeonghun : 8
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Cho U : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Cho Hanseung : 4
Xie He : 3
Won Sungjin : 3
Gu Li : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Iyama Yuta : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Kono Rin : 1
player standings:
prokofiev : 49
jordus : 42
Laman : 40
hyperpape : 39
daal : 31
lovely : 28
Barrauss : 27
Araban : 27
topazg : 26
marcus : 18
hailthorn011 : 18
Stevenson : 18
lindentree : 14
daniel_the_smith : 5

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:52 am
by emeraldemon
And Won Sungjin took the Samsung Cup!

http://gogameguru.com/won-seongjin-wins ... msung-cup/

points earned by pro:
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Park Yeonghun : 8
Lee Changho : 7
Won Sungjin : 6
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Cho U : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Cho Hanseung : 4
Xie He : 3
Gu Li : 3
Takao Shinji : 2
Iyama Yuta : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Kono Rin : 1
player standings:
prokofiev : 52
jordus : 42
hyperpape : 42
Laman : 40
daal : 31
lovely : 28
Barrauss : 27
Araban : 27
topazg : 26
Stevenson : 21
marcus : 18
hailthorn011 : 18
lindentree : 14
daniel_the_smith : 5

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:23 pm
by prokofiev
Awesome. I feel somewhat evil with this much of a lead. :mrgreen:

I'm not sure it'll last, but I'm looking forward to seeing if it does. :rambo:

A question about the game:
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This sequence in the lower right in game 3 seems much better for black (Won Sungjin) to me. Is it? The corner looks huge.

The next moves here were black moving the N6 stone with move 35, even.

See GoGameGuru for the complete game.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:09 am
by Laman
Park Yeonghun won against Baek Hongsuk in the Myeongin finals and so defended his title 3-1 (impressive, given he had to go through the whole knock-out)

Uchida Shuhei lost his first game in the Meijin league to Mizokami Tomochika

still waiting for today's results of Takao-Seto and Kono-Yuki matches from the Honinbo league. (Asahi beats Mainichi)

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:49 am
by Laman
Honinbo league, 3rd round:
Seto Taiki - Takao Shinji (W+R)
Iyama Yuta (B+R) - Ko Iso
Yuki Satoshi - Kono Rin (W+1.5)

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:05 pm
by emeraldemon
Here's the sgf for the Last Myeongin match:



There's a very interesting ko battle, I'm going to have to study this game more later.

points earned by pro:
Park Yeonghun : 10
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Lee Changho : 7
Won Sungjin : 6
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Cho U : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Cho Hanseung : 4
Xie He : 3
Takao Shinji : 3
Iyama Yuta : 3
Gu Li : 3
Kono Rin : 2
Choi Cheolhan : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Mizokami Tomochika : 1
player standings:
prokofiev : 54
jordus : 45
hyperpape : 44
Laman : 44
daal : 34
topazg : 30
lovely : 30
Araban : 29
Barrauss : 28
Stevenson : 23
marcus : 21
hailthorn011 : 19
lindentree : 16
daniel_the_smith : 6
Still waiting for the Hane Naoki-Cho U match in the Honinbo League, and the Hane Naoki - Iyama Yuta match in the Meijin League.

Takao Shinji is looking really good: won the challenger match for Kisei, and leading in the Honinbo League at 3-0. Lost to Cho U in the Meijin league though.

Re: Fantasy go league: rules, registration and results!

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:29 pm
by Laman
Honinbo league:
Cho U beat Hane Naoki by resign

next week:
Meijin league:
Iyama Yuta - Hane Naoki

Tengen-sen: (does it also count?)
Anzai Nobuaki - Cho Chikun
Kobayashi Koichi - Sakai Hideyuki
Yamada Kimio - Kurahashi Masayuki