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155: Magicwand vs. mw42

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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:36 am
by mw42
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . X X X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:42 am
by Magicwand
S16

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:57 am
by mw42
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X O . X . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O X X . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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i think i am ahead in points.... i think i can finish him if i live in the corner.

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:27 am
by mw42
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:13 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:10 pm
by mw42
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . O . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:43 pm
by Celebrir
Is M13 a good move now ? Seems like a good reduction of blacks moyo

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:01 pm
by Shaddy
The corner isn't alive yet...

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:32 pm
by illluck
Corner isn't alive, but it's ko, so I think it's not big to play. I personally feel like black shouldn't have responded at P18.

I'm also not sure if M13 is bigger than Q8.

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:04 pm
by Celebrir
I agree with illuck that ko is enough in the corner. My thought about Q8 was, that if W gets cout there I would probe with S4. In all variation I read a good result is possible for B. But maybe W should play S4 now to decide between Q8 and M13 ?

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:09 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:15 am
by mw42
Sorry, I've been forgetting about this game.
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
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Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:21 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 155: Magicwand vs. mw42

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:19 pm
by mitsun
B needs to be careful here, given the W strength surrounding the corner:
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[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . |
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$$ | . . . . O O O O O O . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O X . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O . X O . . |
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$$ | . . X O . O . . X . . . O . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . O . , . . . . . 2 X 5 . |
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$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . 4 . . 7 . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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