Why, what's the hurry ?Still haven't shaved. I guess I'll do that next.
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Kirby
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Well, two things accomplished.
1. I shaved.
2. I played a game, finally, this week.
It was against KGS 1k. He had some colorful language near the end.
Here is the game, with a review from black's perspective.
Notably, he should have killed me on the top left. It's kind of amusing that I tenuki to let it die, he didn't kill it, had another chance, and still didn't kill it.
So that group should have died. Nonetheless, it was still an interesting game.
1. I shaved.
2. I played a game, finally, this week.
It was against KGS 1k. He had some colorful language near the end.
Here is the game, with a review from black's perspective.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[WebGoBoard:0.10.8]ST[0]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.5]HA[0]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]RE[W+Resign]DT[2016-08-11]PB[cekalo]BR[1k]PW[Brian]WR[1d]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Review from my opponent's side.];B[dq]BL[1798.214];W[pd]WL[1794.264];B[dd]BL[1789.875];W[pp]WL[1784.27](;B[jp]BL[1775.69];W[do]WL[1680.142]C[Normally, with Kobayashi opening, it's not a good idea to approach closely. I heard from Inseong that it's OK when the bottom right exchange hasn't been made (black approach to bottom right corner white 4-4 stone).](;B[co]BL[1768.13];W[cn]WL[1676.208];B[cp]BL[1766.308];W[fc]WL[1648.716];B[cf]BL[1699.958];W[dm]WL[1640.099](;B[cl]BL[1686.746]C[This is also a pretty strong move. However, black needs to be wary of being pressed down on the bottom. Still, not bad, though.];W[bm]WL[1385.35](;B[ci]BL[1661.302]C[Not much pressure, but not bad for the left side.];W[eq]WL[1336.536](;B[er]BL[1657.597]C[I like the variations better. This seems a bit passive, and black is simply pushed down.](;W[dp]WL[1232.479];B[fq]BL[1654.407];W[cq]WL[1220.101];B[ep]BL[1649.398];W[cr]WL[1213.516]C[Black got a nice ponnuki, though, white got nice profit in the corner.];B[eo]BL[1637.201];W[dn]WL[1211.477];B[ic]BL[1628.204];W[cc]WL[1183.21](;B[cd]BL[1623.076];W[dc]WL[1179.967];B[ed]BL[1621.948];W[ec]WL[1168.117](;B[ge]BL[1619.881]C[The shape seems a bit odd.];W[pj]WL[1158.533](;B[qc]BL[1618.008];W[qd]WL[1153.635];B[pc]BL[1616.578];W[oc]WL[1151.992];B[ob]BL[1615.237];W[pb]WL[1033.419];B[qb]BL[1584.939];W[nb]WL[1014.298];B[pa]BL[1583.434];W[nc]WL[1005.93](;B[rd]BL[1571.323]C[Aji-keshi.];W[re]WL[1004.523](;B[sd]BL[1562.304]C[Weird.];W[qf]WL[971.252];B[qq]BL[1559.386];W[qp]WL[965.827];B[pq]BL[1557.857];W[nq]WL[964.419](;B[rp]BL[1520.445]C[Still weird.];W[ro]WL[960.641];B[sp]BL[1489.105]C[Still weird.];W[qn]WL[806.388];B[oq]BL[1470.045];W[op]WL[804.12](;B[nr]BL[1467.847];W[ie]WL[743.428];B[hd]BL[1455.905];W[mj]WL[739.627];B[bc]BL[1452.871];W[bb]WL[736.464];B[bd]BL[1451.988];W[kd]WL[687.732];B[ab]BL[1449.772];W[ba]WL[686.441];B[gb]BL[1446.517];W[fb]WL[684.052](;B[db]BL[1420.854];W[da]WL[682.122](;B[ea]BL[1418.775];W[cb]WL[676.739](;B[mp]BL[1405.7];W[eb]WL[631.736];B[np]BL[1394.732];W[nn]WL[622.736];B[kh]BL[1372.299];W[lg]WL[613.118];B[li]BL[1333.373];W[mi]WL[609.658];B[ml]BL[1318.772]C[Maybe this is too much.];W[nl]WL[559.466](;B[nk]BL[1307.979];W[mk]WL[557.574];B[nm]BL[1306.606];W[ol]WL[556.581];B[ll]BL[1235.091];W[kj]WL[543.1](;B[fm]BL[1171.761]C[Good idea, too.];W[hm]WL[512.568](;B[kk]BL[1141.943];W[jj]WL[486.108];B[jk]BL[1138.409];W[ik]WL[452.398];B[ij]BL[1127.248];W[hj]WL[367.812];B[ii]BL[1119.299];W[lj]WL[365.882];B[hi]BL[1115.34];W[hk]WL[350.8];B[fi]BL[1094.943];W[gi]WL[343.141];B[gh]BL[1084.83];W[gj]WL[341.71];B[hg]BL[1061.878];W[fh]WL[312.111];B[ek]BL[1027.734];W[ln]WL[301.837](;B[mn]BL[1011.153];W[mo]WL[287.734];B[mm]BL[983.37];W[lo]WL[283.354];B[no]BL[973.422];W[on]WL[281.248];B[om]BL[942.497];W[pm]WL[275.697];B[oo]BL[913.611];W[pn]WL[273.321];B[km]BL[806.843];W[jo]WL[194.744];B[jn]BL[732.874];W[io]WL[190.934](;B[in]BL[703.348];W[hn]WL[188.607];B[il]BL[652.076];W[jl]WL[113.218];B[pl]BL[520.476];W[ok]WL[107.377];B[ql]BL[516.031];W[lp]WL[56.679];B[po]BL[495.465];W[qo]WL[51.715];B[mq]BL[494.052];W[lm]WL[31.933];B[kl]BL[279.713]C[Now it's difficult.];W[kn]WL[30];B[rn]BL[127.153];W[lk]WL[30](;B[so]BL[109.888];W[jm]WL[30];B[rm]BL[108.106];W[aj]WL[30];B[qi]BL[104.192];W[qj]WL[30];B[rj]BL[102.506];W[rk]WL[30];B[sk]BL[64.337];W[ri]WL[30];B[si]BL[62.224];W[rh]WL[30];B[qk]BL[56.507]C[Game is kind of over. I think white won regardless.];W[sj]WL[30];B[le]BL[47.609];W[ke]WL[30];B[rj]BL[45.478];W[fg]WL[30];B[hf]BL[37.848];W[sj]WL[30];B[lf]BL[31.173];W[kf]WL[30];B[rj]BL[28.934];W[bi]WL[30];B[bh]BL[22.073];W[cj]WL[30];B[di]BL[13.554];W[dl]WL[30];B[rl]BL[7.262];W[dj]WL[30];B[ej]BL[5.041];W[jb]WL[30];B[rg]BL[2.06];W[qh]WL[30];B[qg]BL[30];W[sh]WL[30];B[pg]BL[30];W[se]WL[30];B[rc]BL[30];W[bg]WL[30](;B[ch]BL[30];W[ah]WL[30];B[cg]BL[30];W[hq]WL[30];B[iq]BL[30];W[hr]WL[30];B[hp]BL[30];W[gp]WL[30];B[ho]BL[30];W[go]WL[30];B[ip]BL[30];W[ko]WL[30];B[ir]BL[30];W[gq]WL[30];B[gn]BL[30];W[hs]WL[30];B[kq]BL[30];W[fn]WL[30];B[gm]BL[30];W[en]WL[30];B[fo]BL[30];W[fp]WL[30];B[eq]BL[30];W[dr]WL[30];B[fs]BL[30];W[ds]WL[30];B[is]BL[30];W[es]WL[30];B[fr]BL[30];W[fl]WL[30]C[cekalo [1k\]: you were just lucky
Brian [1d\]: yeah
cekalo [1k\]: i didnt pay attention
cekalo [1k\]: seriously
Brian [1d\]: ok
cekalo [1k\]: you were dead
];B[gl]BL[30];W[el]WL[30];B[hl]BL[30];W[im]WL[30]C[Brian [1d\]: thanksk
cekalo [1k\]: no gg
Brian [1d\]: ok
cekalo [1k\]: you were lucky
Brian [1d\]: sure
cekalo [1k\]: ??
oren [?\]: lucky is a good skill
cekalo [1k\]: lets play again
cekalo [1k\]: you cant beat me
cekalo [1k\]: i am 1dan
Brian [1d\]: i have to go to work soon
Brian [1d\]: maybe another time
cekalo [1k\]: i was not even thinking
Brian [1d\]: next time, think
cekalo [1k\]: coward
cekalo [1k\]: you sucj
cekalo [1k\]: suck
oren [?\]: one for the censor list
cekalo [1k\]: shut up
cekalo [1k\]: may a thousand camels sneeze in your tent
])(;B[ah]BL[30];W[ch]WL[30]))(;B[so]BL[110.223];W[jm]WL[30];B[rj]BL[103.801];W[rm]WL[30]C[He asked for undo.]))(;B[ko];W[lp];B[kp](;W[lq];B[kn];W[ip];B[in];W[hn];B[ho]C[Might be easier.])(;W[kn])))(;B[km];W[jo]C[Kind of tricky.]))(;B[jk]C[Maybe just trying to keep white separated is good.]))(;B[lj]C[Maybe even sacrifice.];W[lk];B[kk];W[kl];B[jk];W[lm];B[jl];W[km];B[if];W[ek]C[White can still kind of get in, though, so it's not ideal.]))(;B[mk];W[nk](;B[dl]C[Black should try to make something in the center, I think.])(;B[if])))(;B[bq]C[I thin this is a better threat.])(;B[br]C[Actually, this seems even better. If white ignores, white has a weak group and black took back the corner.]))(;B[cb];W[fa];B[eb]C[White still dies]))(;B[fa];W[ea];B[db]C[White dies.]))(;B[ni];W[nr];B[rr];W[qs];B[ps];W[pr];B[or];W[os];B[rs];W[ns]C[Black is alive.]))(;B[nr]C[White will take sente, but this is normal.]))(;LB[se:A]B[rc]C[Now, 'A' is not sente for white.]))(;B[od]C[This cut is available later, when the ladder is good for black.
After the exchange from the game, there is no ladder.])(;B[nj])(;B[ni]C[Reduce in some way?]))(;B[nc]C[Not sure if it's better than game, but I think black needs to make use of influence on the outside.]))(;B[gd]C[Kind of bad shape, but I prefer this.];W[fd];B[fe];W[ge];B[gc];W[ee];B[ff](;W[bd];B[be];W[bc];B[lc];W[ef];B[fg];W[eg];B[fh];W[ce];B[de];W[df];B[ce];W[cg];B[eh];W[dg];B[bg];W[ae];B[bf];W[bh];B[ch])(;W[kc];B[hf];W[ef];B[fg];W[eg]))(;B[fd]C[Pushing is also better, I think.](;W[gd];B[gc])(;W[gc];B[gd];W[hc];B[hd]C[White might take sente, but at least black has solid shape.])))(;B[dc]C[This seems better.];W[db];B[cd];W[bb];B[bc];W[cb](;B[lc]C[Black is safe everywhere. Though, I wonder what the best global strategy is.])(;B[qn]C[Playing here is also pretty big.];W[nq];B[nc](;W[qf](;B[pb];W[qc];B[ld]C[Not sure.])(;B[qc]C[Misclick.];W[ld]))(;W[lc];B[ne];W[pf];B[kd]C[Putting pressure on white might be an option if white tries to split.])(;W[kc];B[qf]))))(;W[fq]C[If white goes here, black should still consider cutting.];B[dp];W[ep];B[eo];W[dn];B[fo]))(;B[dp]C[I would consider pushing.];W[ep];B[eo](;W[dn];B[fo];W[gp]C[Assuming the bottom left corner is alive, then black's K4 stone is now very useful.];B[go];W[hp];B[ho];W[ip];B[io];W[jq];B[kq]C[White could be in trouble.])(;W[fo];B[dn];W[en];B[do]C[White has too many cutting points.];W[gp](;B[em];W[fn];B[dl];W[fm];B[el];W[lq]C[White might attack this stone, but black got a lot of profit on the left.])(;B[fn];W[em];B[gn]C[Maybe even fighting like this is OK. Again, assuming that the bottom left corner is alive.];W[cm];B[hp]))))(;B[dl]C[As black, I prefer to keep up the pressure. The move in the game had little pressure.];W[el];B[ek];W[fk];B[ej];W[fl](;B[fq];W[cj]C[One possible way.])(;B[ck])(;B[fj];W[gj];B[gi];W[hj];B[bl]C[One possible way, though, white can have the chance to attack the bottom.]))(;B[fq]C[Here might be an option, too, but maybe white can revert to something more normal looking.](;W[hl]C[Misclick.])(;W[ci]C[Now, it's similar to if the order were switched (normal joseki, then black invaded here).
K4 stone is still a little weird for black, since bottom is low.])))(;B[en]C[As black, I like this one a bit better.](;W[dn];B[ep];W[ci];B[nq]C[Seems like black stones are working together alright.])(;W[eo]C[White might resist, but..];B[bn];W[fn];B[cl]C[This isn't that bad, either. I suppose white has more potential in the center this way.
Either way, I like this path for black alright.])))(;B[dl]C[I think the idea was that the normal approach like this wasn't as good for black.
];W[fo];B[fq];W[cq];B[cr];W[ho];B[gp];W[go];B[di];W[lq]C[I don't remember exactly. But it's better for white than if black had the approach in.])(;SQ[jp]B[cm]C[As black, I'd still like to pincer - this or the other variation. Because it still uses the marked stone better, even if it's not as nice as pure Kobayashi.])))
Brian [1d\]: yeah
cekalo [1k\]: i didnt pay attention
cekalo [1k\]: seriously
Brian [1d\]: ok
cekalo [1k\]: you were dead
];B[gl]BL[30];W[el]WL[30];B[hl]BL[30];W[im]WL[30]C[Brian [1d\]: thanksk
cekalo [1k\]: no gg
Brian [1d\]: ok
cekalo [1k\]: you were lucky
Brian [1d\]: sure
cekalo [1k\]: ??
oren [?\]: lucky is a good skill
cekalo [1k\]: lets play again
cekalo [1k\]: you cant beat me
cekalo [1k\]: i am 1dan
Brian [1d\]: i have to go to work soon
Brian [1d\]: maybe another time
cekalo [1k\]: i was not even thinking
Brian [1d\]: next time, think
cekalo [1k\]: coward
cekalo [1k\]: you sucj
cekalo [1k\]: suck
oren [?\]: one for the censor list
cekalo [1k\]: shut up
cekalo [1k\]: may a thousand camels sneeze in your tent
])(;B[ah]BL[30];W[ch]WL[30]))(;B[so]BL[110.223];W[jm]WL[30];B[rj]BL[103.801];W[rm]WL[30]C[He asked for undo.]))(;B[ko];W[lp];B[kp](;W[lq];B[kn];W[ip];B[in];W[hn];B[ho]C[Might be easier.])(;W[kn])))(;B[km];W[jo]C[Kind of tricky.]))(;B[jk]C[Maybe just trying to keep white separated is good.]))(;B[lj]C[Maybe even sacrifice.];W[lk];B[kk];W[kl];B[jk];W[lm];B[jl];W[km];B[if];W[ek]C[White can still kind of get in, though, so it's not ideal.]))(;B[mk];W[nk](;B[dl]C[Black should try to make something in the center, I think.])(;B[if])))(;B[bq]C[I thin this is a better threat.])(;B[br]C[Actually, this seems even better. If white ignores, white has a weak group and black took back the corner.]))(;B[cb];W[fa];B[eb]C[White still dies
]))(;B[fa];W[ea];B[db]C[White dies.]))(;B[ni];W[nr];B[rr];W[qs];B[ps];W[pr];B[or];W[os];B[rs];W[ns]C[Black is alive.]))(;B[nr]C[White will take sente, but this is normal.]))(;LB[se:A]B[rc]C[Now, 'A' is not sente for white.]))(;B[od]C[This cut is available later, when the ladder is good for black.After the exchange from the game, there is no ladder.])(;B[nj])(;B[ni]C[Reduce in some way?]))(;B[nc]C[Not sure if it's better than game, but I think black needs to make use of influence on the outside.]))(;B[gd]C[Kind of bad shape, but I prefer this.];W[fd];B[fe];W[ge];B[gc];W[ee];B[ff](;W[bd];B[be];W[bc];B[lc];W[ef];B[fg];W[eg];B[fh];W[ce];B[de];W[df];B[ce];W[cg];B[eh];W[dg];B[bg];W[ae];B[bf];W[bh];B[ch])(;W[kc];B[hf];W[ef];B[fg];W[eg]))(;B[fd]C[Pushing is also better, I think.](;W[gd];B[gc])(;W[gc];B[gd];W[hc];B[hd]C[White might take sente, but at least black has solid shape.])))(;B[dc]C[This seems better.];W[db];B[cd];W[bb];B[bc];W[cb](;B[lc]C[Black is safe everywhere. Though, I wonder what the best global strategy is.])(;B[qn]C[Playing here is also pretty big.];W[nq];B[nc](;W[qf](;B[pb];W[qc];B[ld]C[Not sure.])(;B[qc]C[Misclick.];W[ld]))(;W[lc];B[ne];W[pf];B[kd]C[Putting pressure on white might be an option if white tries to split.])(;W[kc];B[qf]))))(;W[fq]C[If white goes here, black should still consider cutting.];B[dp];W[ep];B[eo];W[dn];B[fo]))(;B[dp]C[I would consider pushing.];W[ep];B[eo](;W[dn];B[fo];W[gp]C[Assuming the bottom left corner is alive, then black's K4 stone is now very useful.];B[go];W[hp];B[ho];W[ip];B[io];W[jq];B[kq]C[White could be in trouble.])(;W[fo];B[dn];W[en];B[do]C[White has too many cutting points.];W[gp](;B[em];W[fn];B[dl];W[fm];B[el];W[lq]C[White might attack this stone, but black got a lot of profit on the left.])(;B[fn];W[em];B[gn]C[Maybe even fighting like this is OK. Again, assuming that the bottom left corner is alive.];W[cm];B[hp]))))(;B[dl]C[As black, I prefer to keep up the pressure. The move in the game had little pressure.];W[el];B[ek];W[fk];B[ej];W[fl](;B[fq];W[cj]C[One possible way.])(;B[ck])(;B[fj];W[gj];B[gi];W[hj];B[bl]C[One possible way, though, white can have the chance to attack the bottom.]))(;B[fq]C[Here might be an option, too, but maybe white can revert to something more normal looking.](;W[hl]C[Misclick.])(;W[ci]C[Now, it's similar to if the order were switched (normal joseki, then black invaded here).
K4 stone is still a little weird for black, since bottom is low.])))(;B[en]C[As black, I like this one a bit better.](;W[dn];B[ep];W[ci];B[nq]C[Seems like black stones are working together alright.])(;W[eo]C[White might resist, but..];B[bn];W[fn];B[cl]C[This isn't that bad, either. I suppose white has more potential in the center this way.
Either way, I like this path for black alright.])))(;B[dl]C[I think the idea was that the normal approach like this wasn't as good for black.
];W[fo];B[fq];W[cq];B[cr];W[ho];B[gp];W[go];B[di];W[lq]C[I don't remember exactly. But it's better for white than if black had the approach in.])(;SQ[jp]B[cm]C[As black, I'd still like to pincer - this or the other variation. Because it still uses the marked stone better, even if it's not as nice as pure Kobayashi.])))
Notably, he should have killed me on the top left. It's kind of amusing that I tenuki to let it die, he didn't kill it, had another chance, and still didn't kill it.
So that group should have died. Nonetheless, it was still an interesting game.
be immersed
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Kirby
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Aji-keshi Review
Position 1:
The marked move was somewhat aji-keshi, I suppose. My intention was to develop potential in the center, but black fixes his weird connection pretty well. I wonder if I need to do this right now.
In fact, splitting the stones doesn't seem that bad, if I can get a good attack on his stones. For example:
Maybe black won't play that way, but splitting seems viable if not now, in the future. And after this move, I erased that possibility.
Position 2:
Not sure if the atari was ideal. It's not 100% clear to me that this is the direction I want to go. For example, later, maybe I want to pressure his other stones:
So yeah, kind of aji-keshi. Maybe I play as above now, and try to make something on the bottom:
Not sure if it will work, though. I guess I can see why I played this way.
Maybe instead of doing either atari, I should simply deal with the stone first:
Then later, I can decide on 'a' or 'b'. I think I like this path best - don't decide atari, even if he captures my marked white stones.
These are the main points of "aji-keshi" I'd like to point out. I will get to the game review from my own side later tonight.
Already, I should note that:
1. I shouldn't have given him the chance to let me die in the top left.
2. I shouldn't have allowed such risk in the opening when he could have cut me in the bottom left.
Position 1:
$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . W . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . W . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . W . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The marked move was somewhat aji-keshi, I suppose. My intention was to develop potential in the center, but black fixes his weird connection pretty well. I wonder if I need to do this right now.
In fact, splitting the stones doesn't seem that bad, if I can get a good attack on his stones. For example:
$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O 4 3 B . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 2 1 . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O 4 3 B . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 2 1 . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O O O O 4 3 B . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 2 1 . , . . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Maybe black won't play that way, but splitting seems viable if not now, in the future. And after this move, I erased that possibility.
Position 2:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . W X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . W X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . W X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Not sure if the atari was ideal. It's not 100% clear to me that this is the direction I want to go. For example, later, maybe I want to pressure his other stones:
$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So yeah, kind of aji-keshi. Maybe I play as above now, and try to make something on the bottom:
$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 4 . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . 5 . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 4 . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . 5 . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 1 . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 2 X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 4 . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . 5 . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Not sure if it will work, though. I guess I can see why I played this way.
Maybe instead of doing either atari, I should simply deal with the stone first:
$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . b . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . a X W W . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . b . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . a X W W . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . b . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . a X W W . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Then later, I can decide on 'a' or 'b'. I think I like this path best - don't decide atari, even if he captures my marked white stones.
These are the main points of "aji-keshi" I'd like to point out. I will get to the game review from my own side later tonight.
Already, I should note that:
1. I shouldn't have given him the chance to let me die in the top left.
2. I shouldn't have allowed such risk in the opening when he could have cut me in the bottom left.
be immersed
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Review of Game From My Perspective
Kind of distracted by Ing Cup right now...
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[WebGoBoard:0.10.8]ST[0]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.5]HA[0]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]RE[W+Resign]DT[2016-08-11]PB[cekalo]BR[1k]PW[Brian]WR[1d]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Review from my perspective.];B[dq]BL[1798.214]C[Was surprised to see him open in the bottom left like this, just since it's considered courtesy to start in the top right.];W[pd]WL[1794.264];B[dd]BL[1789.875];W[pp]WL[1784.27]C[Familiar so far.];B[jp]BL[1775.69];LB[nq:A]W[do]WL[1680.142]C[Usually, with Kobayashi opening, approaching close like this is a no-no.
But I remember from a review I had with Inseong that, when black didn't already have a stone at 'A', the close approach is possible.
The reason is shown in the variation.
In retrospect, I still think the further approach might work out here, because the 4-4-4 stone isn't exactly what I had in the game that Inseong reviewed, and the fighting variation he showed doesn't apply as clearly.](;B[co]BL[1768.13];W[cn]WL[1676.208];B[cp]BL[1766.308](;W[fc]WL[1648.716];B[cf]BL[1699.958];W[dm]WL[1640.099]C[This one seems too loose for pressing black down.];B[cl]BL[1686.746];W[bm]WL[1385.35];B[ci]BL[1661.302];W[eq]WL[1336.536];B[er]BL[1657.597];W[dp]WL[1232.479];B[fq]BL[1654.407](;W[cq]WL[1220.101];B[ep]BL[1649.398];W[cr]WL[1213.516]C[I'm somewhat satisfied here. Black did get a ponnuki, but I feel OK about the center territory.];B[eo]BL[1637.201];W[dn]WL[1211.477];B[ic]BL[1628.204](;W[cc]WL[1183.21];B[cd]BL[1623.076];W[dc]WL[1179.967];B[ed]BL[1621.948](;W[ec]WL[1168.117]C[I like the variation better.];B[ge]BL[1619.881];W[pj]WL[1158.533]C[Not bad. I'd still play here again, given this board position.];B[qc]BL[1618.008];W[qd]WL[1153.635];B[pc]BL[1616.578](;W[oc]WL[1151.992];B[ob]BL[1615.237](;W[pb]WL[1033.419]C[I felt like doing something different.];B[qb]BL[1584.939];W[nb]WL[1014.298];B[pa]BL[1583.434](;LB[od:A]W[nc]WL[1005.93]C[There's still a cutting point here.
So I guess:
1. I should have done the one that gives me sente.
2. If not that, just doing the "normal" way might have been fine.];B[rd]BL[1571.323];W[re]WL[1004.523];B[sd]BL[1562.304];W[qf]WL[971.252]C[Now, that cut is fixed. The result turned out OK.];B[qq]BL[1559.386];W[qp]WL[965.827];B[pq]BL[1557.857];W[nq]WL[964.419];B[rp]BL[1520.445];W[ro]WL[960.641];B[sp]BL[1489.105](;W[qn]WL[806.388];B[oq]BL[1470.045];W[op]WL[804.12];B[nr]BL[1467.847](;W[ie]WL[743.428];B[hd]BL[1455.905](;W[mj]WL[739.627];B[bc]BL[1452.871];W[bb]WL[736.464];B[bd]BL[1451.988](;W[kd]WL[687.732]C[So stupid.];B[ab]BL[1449.772](;W[ba]WL[686.441]C[Very bad. I killed myself.];B[gb]BL[1446.517];W[fb]WL[684.052];B[db]BL[1420.854];W[da]WL[682.122](;B[ea]BL[1418.775];W[cb]WL[676.739];B[mp]BL[1405.7];W[eb]WL[631.736]C[I got very lucky.];B[np]BL[1394.732];W[nn]WL[622.736];B[kh]BL[1372.299];W[lg]WL[613.118];B[li]BL[1333.373];W[mi]WL[609.658];B[ml]BL[1318.772];W[nl]WL[559.466];B[nk]BL[1307.979];W[mk]WL[557.574];B[nm]BL[1306.606];W[ol]WL[556.581];B[ll]BL[1235.091](;W[kj]WL[543.1];B[fm]BL[1171.761];W[hm]WL[512.568];B[kk]BL[1141.943]C[After this, things get a little complicated. So maybe things went south earlier.];W[jj]WL[486.108];B[jk]BL[1138.409];W[ik]WL[452.398];B[ij]BL[1127.248](;W[hj]WL[367.812]C[This seemed bad. I thin I should simply work on saving the stone first.];B[ii]BL[1119.299];W[lj]WL[365.882];B[hi]BL[1115.34];W[hk]WL[350.8];B[fi]BL[1094.943];W[gi]WL[343.141];B[gh]BL[1084.83];W[gj]WL[341.71];B[hg]BL[1061.878];W[fh]WL[312.111];B[ek]BL[1027.734];W[ln]WL[301.837](;B[mn]BL[1011.153];W[mo]WL[287.734];B[mm]BL[983.37];W[lo]WL[283.354];B[no]BL[973.422];W[on]WL[281.248];B[om]BL[942.497];W[pm]WL[275.697];B[oo]BL[913.611];W[pn]WL[273.321];B[km]BL[806.843];W[jo]WL[194.744];B[jn]BL[732.874];W[io]WL[190.934];B[in]BL[703.348];W[hn]WL[188.607];B[il]BL[652.076];W[jl]WL[113.218]C[I got somewhat lucky here, and I think the game is over after capturing these stones.];B[pl]BL[520.476];W[ok]WL[107.377];B[ql]BL[516.031];W[lp]WL[56.679];B[po]BL[495.465];W[qo]WL[51.715];B[mq]BL[494.052];W[lm]WL[31.933];B[kl]BL[279.713];W[kn]WL[30];B[rn]BL[127.153];W[lk]WL[30](;B[so]BL[109.888];W[jm]WL[30];B[rm]BL[108.106];W[aj]WL[30];B[qi]BL[104.192];W[qj]WL[30];B[rj]BL[102.506];W[rk]WL[30];B[sk]BL[64.337];W[ri]WL[30];B[si]BL[62.224];W[rh]WL[30];B[qk]BL[56.507];W[sj]WL[30];B[le]BL[47.609];W[ke]WL[30];B[rj]BL[45.478];W[fg]WL[30];B[hf]BL[37.848];W[sj]WL[30];B[lf]BL[31.173];W[kf]WL[30];B[rj]BL[28.934];W[bi]WL[30];B[bh]BL[22.073];W[cj]WL[30];B[di]BL[13.554];W[dl]WL[30];B[rl]BL[7.262];W[dj]WL[30];B[ej]BL[5.041];W[jb]WL[30];B[rg]BL[2.06];W[qh]WL[30];B[qg]BL[30];W[sh]WL[30];B[pg]BL[30];W[se]WL[30];B[rc]BL[30];W[bg]WL[30](;B[ch]BL[30];W[ah]WL[30];B[cg]BL[30];W[hq]WL[30];B[iq]BL[30];W[hr]WL[30];B[hp]BL[30];W[gp]WL[30];B[ho]BL[30];W[go]WL[30];B[ip]BL[30];W[ko]WL[30];B[ir]BL[30];W[gq]WL[30];B[gn]BL[30];W[hs]WL[30];B[kq]BL[30];W[fn]WL[30];B[gm]BL[30];W[en]WL[30];B[fo]BL[30];W[fp]WL[30];B[eq]BL[30];W[dr]WL[30];B[fs]BL[30];W[ds]WL[30];B[is]BL[30];W[es]WL[30];B[fr]BL[30];W[fl]WL[30];B[gl]BL[30];W[el]WL[30];B[hl]BL[30];W[im]WL[30])(;B[ah]BL[30];W[ch]WL[30]))(;B[so]BL[110.223];W[jm]WL[30];B[rj]BL[103.801];W[rm]WL[30]))(;B[km];W[kn];B[jn];W[jm](;B[im];W[in];B[jl];W[jo]C[Something like this?])(;B[jl];W[im];B[mn];W[mo];B[mm];W[no];B[lo];W[jo](;B[on];W[oo];B[qo];W[po];B[pn];W[qo];B[qm];W[lp])(;B[ko];W[in];B[on];W[oo];B[qo];W[po];B[pn];W[qo]))))(;W[fn];B[en];W[fl]C[Something likek this, first.];B[em];W[el];B[dl]C[If black insists on cutting off, then maybe I work on making this live now.];W[ej](;B[ii];W[cj];B[bj];W[ck];B[bk];W[di](;B[ch];W[bl]C[Seems good for me.])(;B[bl];W[ch];B[bi];W[dk]C[Seems good.]))(;B[dj]C[If black answers...];W[hj];B[ii];W[gk]C[Maybe I can make a living shape.])))(;W[gm]C[Perhaps I should reduce from this side first.]))(;B[cb]C[Still dead];W[fa];B[eb]))(;W[hb]C[I might still be ok if I play this first.](;B[ib];W[ba];B[gb];W[gc];B[hc];W[fb];B[ha];W[db]C[Maybe this?])(;B[ba];W[ib];B[jc]C[Painful.];W[cb];B[jb]C[White lives.])(;B[gb];W[gc];B[hc];W[fb])(;B[cb];W[db];B[ba];W[ib])))(;W[ab]C[Obviously, I should answer. It was stupid to tenuki.]))(;W[jn]C[Maybe this way works, too.];B[nj];W[lj]C[Might be risky.]))(;W[hd]C[I didn't consider this move much, but maybe it's possible, locally.](;B[gd];W[hc];B[gc];W[gb])(;B[hc];W[gd])(;B[id](;W[ie]C[Maybe fight?];B[hc];W[gc](;B[he])(;B[je];W[he];B[gd]C[A little tricky. Maybe it's not good.]))(;W[he]C[Maybe this way.];B[gd];W[hc]))))(;W[rr];B[rq];W[oq];B[sr]C[I can't seem to kill him.]))(;W[nd];B[mc];W[nc];B[mb]C[I didn't really like this.]))(;W[nb]C[This one isn't great, since the right side stone is high.];B[rd];W[re];B[qe];W[pe];B[rc];W[nd];B[qf];W[rf];B[qg];W[rg];B[qh];W[rh];B[qi];W[ri];B[qj];W[rj];TR[pj]B[qk]C[This stone is in a bad position.])(;W[nc](;B[rd];W[re])(;B[nb];W[mc];B[rd];W[re];B[rc];W[qf]C[Boring, but I guess ok.])))(;W[nc]C[I should have played here, I think. Usually white gets sente this way, and I think it'd be worth it.];B[nb];W[nq];B[rp];W[rn]C[Something like this?];B[qq];W[pq];B[rr];W[pn]))(;W[gb]C[Maybe this is better.];B[fd];W[gd];B[ge];W[hd];B[he];W[id];B[kc];W[ie]C[Doesn't seem too bad for white.]))(;W[dc]C[I think I should do this one.];B[cc];W[cb](;B[cd];W[eb]C[I like this shape a bit better than invading 3-3.])(;B[ec];W[db];B[ed];W[eb];B[bc];W[fd]C[I think this one might be better.])))(;W[ep];B[cr]C[White's shape is bad.]))(;W[dn]C[I think I should play this one, now.](;B[cg]C[If black plays elsewhere, it's easier to push black down.];W[eq];B[er];W[dp];B[cq];W[fq];B[fr];W[hq]C[Seems to push white down and makes black's stone isolated.])(;TR[jp]B[fq]C[So if black responds to the joseki, the marked stone is weird, now.])(;B[gp]C[Maybe black can do something to make K4 look better, but there is still aji.])))(;LB[nq:A]B[dl]C[When black has the stone at 'A', a pincer like this is nice.];W[fo];B[fq];W[ho];B[gp];W[go];B[jn]C[Normally, white can peep, jump, and attack the white group.];W[gl];LB[nq:A]B[di]C[When the stone is at 'A', black got both sides, and white is the only one with a weak group.];W[iq]C[This situation is a little different.];B[ip];W[hp];B[hq];W[hr];B[gq];LB[nq:A]W[jq]C[When black has the stone at 'A', this is kind of unthinkable. But here, white can consider breaking black apart.
However, in the game where I had this game review, I realize now that I had a 3-4 enclosure already in the bottom right.];AW[oq][qp]AE[pp]C[So if it were like this, white more clearly has helping stones.];B[];AW[pp]AE[qp][oq]C[When it's just a stone like this, I feel black still has a pretty good fight.]))
But I remember from a review I had with Inseong that, when black didn't already have a stone at 'A', the close approach is possible.
The reason is shown in the variation.
In retrospect, I still think the further approach might work out here, because the 4-4-4 stone isn't exactly what I had in the game that Inseong reviewed, and the fighting variation he showed doesn't apply as clearly.](;B[co]BL[1768.13];W[cn]WL[1676.208];B[cp]BL[1766.308](;W[fc]WL[1648.716];B[cf]BL[1699.958];W[dm]WL[1640.099]C[This one seems too loose for pressing black down.];B[cl]BL[1686.746];W[bm]WL[1385.35];B[ci]BL[1661.302];W[eq]WL[1336.536];B[er]BL[1657.597];W[dp]WL[1232.479];B[fq]BL[1654.407](;W[cq]WL[1220.101];B[ep]BL[1649.398];W[cr]WL[1213.516]C[I'm somewhat satisfied here. Black did get a ponnuki, but I feel OK about the center territory.];B[eo]BL[1637.201];W[dn]WL[1211.477];B[ic]BL[1628.204](;W[cc]WL[1183.21];B[cd]BL[1623.076];W[dc]WL[1179.967];B[ed]BL[1621.948](;W[ec]WL[1168.117]C[I like the variation better.];B[ge]BL[1619.881];W[pj]WL[1158.533]C[Not bad. I'd still play here again, given this board position.];B[qc]BL[1618.008];W[qd]WL[1153.635];B[pc]BL[1616.578](;W[oc]WL[1151.992];B[ob]BL[1615.237](;W[pb]WL[1033.419]C[I felt like doing something different.];B[qb]BL[1584.939];W[nb]WL[1014.298];B[pa]BL[1583.434](;LB[od:A]W[nc]WL[1005.93]C[There's still a cutting point here.
So I guess:
1. I should have done the one that gives me sente.
2. If not that, just doing the "normal" way might have been fine.];B[rd]BL[1571.323];W[re]WL[1004.523];B[sd]BL[1562.304];W[qf]WL[971.252]C[Now, that cut is fixed. The result turned out OK.];B[qq]BL[1559.386];W[qp]WL[965.827];B[pq]BL[1557.857];W[nq]WL[964.419];B[rp]BL[1520.445];W[ro]WL[960.641];B[sp]BL[1489.105](;W[qn]WL[806.388];B[oq]BL[1470.045];W[op]WL[804.12];B[nr]BL[1467.847](;W[ie]WL[743.428];B[hd]BL[1455.905](;W[mj]WL[739.627];B[bc]BL[1452.871];W[bb]WL[736.464];B[bd]BL[1451.988](;W[kd]WL[687.732]C[So stupid.];B[ab]BL[1449.772](;W[ba]WL[686.441]C[Very bad. I killed myself.];B[gb]BL[1446.517];W[fb]WL[684.052];B[db]BL[1420.854];W[da]WL[682.122](;B[ea]BL[1418.775];W[cb]WL[676.739];B[mp]BL[1405.7];W[eb]WL[631.736]C[I got very lucky.];B[np]BL[1394.732];W[nn]WL[622.736];B[kh]BL[1372.299];W[lg]WL[613.118];B[li]BL[1333.373];W[mi]WL[609.658];B[ml]BL[1318.772];W[nl]WL[559.466];B[nk]BL[1307.979];W[mk]WL[557.574];B[nm]BL[1306.606];W[ol]WL[556.581];B[ll]BL[1235.091](;W[kj]WL[543.1];B[fm]BL[1171.761];W[hm]WL[512.568];B[kk]BL[1141.943]C[After this, things get a little complicated. So maybe things went south earlier.];W[jj]WL[486.108];B[jk]BL[1138.409];W[ik]WL[452.398];B[ij]BL[1127.248](;W[hj]WL[367.812]C[This seemed bad. I thin I should simply work on saving the stone first.];B[ii]BL[1119.299];W[lj]WL[365.882];B[hi]BL[1115.34];W[hk]WL[350.8];B[fi]BL[1094.943];W[gi]WL[343.141];B[gh]BL[1084.83];W[gj]WL[341.71];B[hg]BL[1061.878];W[fh]WL[312.111];B[ek]BL[1027.734];W[ln]WL[301.837](;B[mn]BL[1011.153];W[mo]WL[287.734];B[mm]BL[983.37];W[lo]WL[283.354];B[no]BL[973.422];W[on]WL[281.248];B[om]BL[942.497];W[pm]WL[275.697];B[oo]BL[913.611];W[pn]WL[273.321];B[km]BL[806.843];W[jo]WL[194.744];B[jn]BL[732.874];W[io]WL[190.934];B[in]BL[703.348];W[hn]WL[188.607];B[il]BL[652.076];W[jl]WL[113.218]C[I got somewhat lucky here, and I think the game is over after capturing these stones.];B[pl]BL[520.476];W[ok]WL[107.377];B[ql]BL[516.031];W[lp]WL[56.679];B[po]BL[495.465];W[qo]WL[51.715];B[mq]BL[494.052];W[lm]WL[31.933];B[kl]BL[279.713];W[kn]WL[30];B[rn]BL[127.153];W[lk]WL[30](;B[so]BL[109.888];W[jm]WL[30];B[rm]BL[108.106];W[aj]WL[30];B[qi]BL[104.192];W[qj]WL[30];B[rj]BL[102.506];W[rk]WL[30];B[sk]BL[64.337];W[ri]WL[30];B[si]BL[62.224];W[rh]WL[30];B[qk]BL[56.507];W[sj]WL[30];B[le]BL[47.609];W[ke]WL[30];B[rj]BL[45.478];W[fg]WL[30];B[hf]BL[37.848];W[sj]WL[30];B[lf]BL[31.173];W[kf]WL[30];B[rj]BL[28.934];W[bi]WL[30];B[bh]BL[22.073];W[cj]WL[30];B[di]BL[13.554];W[dl]WL[30];B[rl]BL[7.262];W[dj]WL[30];B[ej]BL[5.041];W[jb]WL[30];B[rg]BL[2.06];W[qh]WL[30];B[qg]BL[30];W[sh]WL[30];B[pg]BL[30];W[se]WL[30];B[rc]BL[30];W[bg]WL[30](;B[ch]BL[30];W[ah]WL[30];B[cg]BL[30];W[hq]WL[30];B[iq]BL[30];W[hr]WL[30];B[hp]BL[30];W[gp]WL[30];B[ho]BL[30];W[go]WL[30];B[ip]BL[30];W[ko]WL[30];B[ir]BL[30];W[gq]WL[30];B[gn]BL[30];W[hs]WL[30];B[kq]BL[30];W[fn]WL[30];B[gm]BL[30];W[en]WL[30];B[fo]BL[30];W[fp]WL[30];B[eq]BL[30];W[dr]WL[30];B[fs]BL[30];W[ds]WL[30];B[is]BL[30];W[es]WL[30];B[fr]BL[30];W[fl]WL[30];B[gl]BL[30];W[el]WL[30];B[hl]BL[30];W[im]WL[30])(;B[ah]BL[30];W[ch]WL[30]))(;B[so]BL[110.223];W[jm]WL[30];B[rj]BL[103.801];W[rm]WL[30]))(;B[km];W[kn];B[jn];W[jm](;B[im];W[in];B[jl];W[jo]C[Something like this?])(;B[jl];W[im];B[mn];W[mo];B[mm];W[no];B[lo];W[jo](;B[on];W[oo];B[qo];W[po];B[pn];W[qo];B[qm];W[lp])(;B[ko];W[in];B[on];W[oo];B[qo];W[po];B[pn];W[qo]))))(;W[fn];B[en];W[fl]C[Something likek this, first.];B[em];W[el];B[dl]C[If black insists on cutting off, then maybe I work on making this live now.];W[ej](;B[ii];W[cj];B[bj];W[ck];B[bk];W[di](;B[ch];W[bl]C[Seems good for me.])(;B[bl];W[ch];B[bi];W[dk]C[Seems good.]))(;B[dj]C[If black answers...];W[hj];B[ii];W[gk]C[Maybe I can make a living shape.])))(;W[gm]C[Perhaps I should reduce from this side first.]))(;B[cb]C[Still dead
];W[fa];B[eb]))(;W[hb]C[I might still be ok if I play this first.](;B[ib];W[ba];B[gb];W[gc];B[hc];W[fb];B[ha];W[db]C[Maybe this?])(;B[ba];W[ib];B[jc]C[Painful.];W[cb];B[jb]C[White lives.])(;B[gb];W[gc];B[hc];W[fb])(;B[cb];W[db];B[ba];W[ib])))(;W[ab]C[Obviously, I should answer. It was stupid to tenuki.]))(;W[jn]C[Maybe this way works, too.];B[nj];W[lj]C[Might be risky.]))(;W[hd]C[I didn't consider this move much, but maybe it's possible, locally.](;B[gd];W[hc];B[gc];W[gb])(;B[hc];W[gd])(;B[id](;W[ie]C[Maybe fight?];B[hc];W[gc](;B[he])(;B[je];W[he];B[gd]C[A little tricky. Maybe it's not good.]))(;W[he]C[Maybe this way.];B[gd];W[hc]))))(;W[rr];B[rq];W[oq];B[sr]C[I can't seem to kill him.]))(;W[nd];B[mc];W[nc];B[mb]C[I didn't really like this.]))(;W[nb]C[This one isn't great, since the right side stone is high.];B[rd];W[re];B[qe];W[pe];B[rc];W[nd];B[qf];W[rf];B[qg];W[rg];B[qh];W[rh];B[qi];W[ri];B[qj];W[rj];TR[pj]B[qk]C[This stone is in a bad position.])(;W[nc](;B[rd];W[re])(;B[nb];W[mc];B[rd];W[re];B[rc];W[qf]C[Boring, but I guess ok.])))(;W[nc]C[I should have played here, I think. Usually white gets sente this way, and I think it'd be worth it.];B[nb];W[nq];B[rp];W[rn]C[Something like this?];B[qq];W[pq];B[rr];W[pn]))(;W[gb]C[Maybe this is better.];B[fd];W[gd];B[ge];W[hd];B[he];W[id];B[kc];W[ie]C[Doesn't seem too bad for white.]))(;W[dc]C[I think I should do this one.];B[cc];W[cb](;B[cd];W[eb]C[I like this shape a bit better than invading 3-3.])(;B[ec];W[db];B[ed];W[eb];B[bc];W[fd]C[I think this one might be better.])))(;W[ep];B[cr]C[White's shape is bad.]))(;W[dn]C[I think I should play this one, now.](;B[cg]C[If black plays elsewhere, it's easier to push black down.];W[eq];B[er];W[dp];B[cq];W[fq];B[fr];W[hq]C[Seems to push white down and makes black's stone isolated.])(;TR[jp]B[fq]C[So if black responds to the joseki, the marked stone is weird, now.])(;B[gp]C[Maybe black can do something to make K4 look better, but there is still aji.])))(;LB[nq:A]B[dl]C[When black has the stone at 'A', a pincer like this is nice.];W[fo];B[fq];W[ho];B[gp];W[go];B[jn]C[Normally, white can peep, jump, and attack the white group.];W[gl];LB[nq:A]B[di]C[When the stone is at 'A', black got both sides, and white is the only one with a weak group.];W[iq]C[This situation is a little different.];B[ip];W[hp];B[hq];W[hr];B[gq];LB[nq:A]W[jq]C[When black has the stone at 'A', this is kind of unthinkable. But here, white can consider breaking black apart.However, in the game where I had this game review, I realize now that I had a 3-4 enclosure already in the bottom right.];AW[oq][qp]AE[pp]C[So if it were like this, white more clearly has helping stones.];B[];AW[pp]AE[qp][oq]C[When it's just a stone like this, I feel black still has a pretty good fight.]))
Kind of distracted by Ing Cup right now...
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Some Highlights
Position 1
I think this is too loose. I should have played tighter earlier, and it could have made the K4 stone weird.
For example:
If black responds to the joseki, K4 looks weird:
and if he doesn't, then I can press down, and K4 is still a little weird:
Black might give up corner like in game to get ponnuki, but I'm fine with the nice corner:
Position 2:
I like this response a little better:
Position 3:
I like this a little better (to try to grab sente):
Position 4:
Killing myself is bad
Kind of painful, but I should try this to live.
Position 5:
Didn't think of this in the sgf review, but this move seems a bit small. Maybe I should expand the center more and let him have this area:
Maybe that's bigger than what I played.
Position 6:
Things were getting slightly risky after black's move here, and I had a pretty good game before it I thought.
So maybe earlier, I should make things simpler:
Position 7:
I think the atari is a weak move, and I don't know if I want to do that. I think I should move with the other stone first to see how black responds:
I can aim in the 'a' and 'b' area next as miai.
These are the main points I think I should focus on.
So some highlights:
1. Think more carefully about the technical details (type of connection to use to push down, etc.).
2. When game is good for me, avoid getting into a crisis situation where black has a big moyo. I could have just reduced this and the game would be simpler. When I'm ahead, try to wrap up the game in a simple way.
3. Play the big area (e.g. I like the tengen in Position 5).
Position 1
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I think this is too loose. I should have played tighter earlier, and it could have made the K4 stone weird.
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If black responds to the joseki, K4 looks weird:
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and if he doesn't, then I can press down, and K4 is still a little weird:
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$$ | . . . . 3 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 5 X 2 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Black might give up corner like in game to get ponnuki, but I'm fine with the nice corner:
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$$ | . . 6 X 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Position 2:
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I like this response a little better:
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Position 3:
$$B
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I like this a little better (to try to grab sente):
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$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . . X . . . . W . X X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Position 4:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Killing myself is bad
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . W . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . W . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O . . . . . W . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Kind of painful, but I should try this to live.
Position 5:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . W . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . W . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . W . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Didn't think of this in the sgf review, but this move seems a bit small. Maybe I should expand the center more and let him have this area:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . W . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . W . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . W . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Maybe that's bigger than what I played.
Position 6:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Things were getting slightly risky after black's move here, and I had a pretty good game before it I thought.
So maybe earlier, I should make things simpler:
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
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Position 7:
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$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
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$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
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I think the atari is a weak move, and I don't know if I want to do that. I think I should move with the other stone first to see how black responds:
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$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a , 7 . . b X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 5 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O 4 X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
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$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
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$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a , 7 . . b X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 5 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O 4 X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
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$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a , 7 . . b X O O . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 5 3 . . . . . X X O O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O 4 X . O . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 2 1 . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . X X O O O X X |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
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I can aim in the 'a' and 'b' area next as miai.
These are the main points I think I should focus on.
So some highlights:
1. Think more carefully about the technical details (type of connection to use to push down, etc.).
2. When game is good for me, avoid getting into a crisis situation where black has a big moyo. I could have just reduced this and the game would be simpler. When I'm ahead, try to wrap up the game in a simple way.
3. Play the big area (e.g. I like the tengen in Position 5).
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Kirby wrote:Some Highlights
I think this is too loose. I should have played tighter earlier, and it could have made the K4 stone weird.
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If black responds to the joseki, K4 looks weird:$$B
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . B . . . . . O . . . |
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Can't black play this way and look fine?
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$$ | . . X , 1 . . . . B . . . . . O . . . |
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Position 2:$$B
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$$ | . . O O W O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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I don't think there's anything wrong with this position as yet. White can come out easily enough and black's original keima looks overconcentrated. Black's choice of direction after the 3-3 seemed kind of odd, to be honest. When black ends in gote, overconcentrated, and low on the left, it seems good for white.
Position 5:$$B
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$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X O O . O O X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . X . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X X X X . . X . , O . . . . O O X X |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . O . |
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$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . W . . O . . |
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Didn't think of this in the sgf review, but this move seems a bit small. Maybe I should expand the center more and let him have this area:$$B
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Maybe that's bigger than what I played.
I'm not so sure. A black play in that area could reduce quite a bit, and also expands black's moyo on the bottom. I find it a bit difficult to evaluate directly, though. I suppose if you see the central move as gaining 15 points in the moyo, the bottom one might count for 10-12, plus the effect limiting black which may be worth more.
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I dunno, I think the bottom is a bit loose here:
I admit it's not terrible, but I don't mind white.
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I admit it's not terrible, but I don't mind white.
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This idea is mostly my feeling: expanding the center feels bigger than what I played.
I didn't evaluate points.
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Kirby wrote:Some Highlights...
Position 2:
I disagree with you here. I think the game choice was better. With the marked Black stone on the board, however, Black should have been more aggressive and jumped to 1 maybe.
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Here the normal follow up would be 1 and 3 I think. If White tries to cut instead of playing 6, Black plays the atari at 6 of course. Again this would find some actual use for the marked Black stone, which was completely useless in the actual game.
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Position 3:
I think your game choice was better.
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You over value sente (you do this fairly often in your games). Not only is 2 below small because of Black's strength in the bottom left, but 3 fixes Black's bad relationship between the two marked stones. Black does not need to connect these stones any longer. In the game, you wasted your thickness in the upper right when you 'forced' Black to connect these stones. Of course you should have separated them as in your variation in the game file. Your target should be to take over the top.
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Position 7:
I think that you will be disappointed below after 8.
The 1, 3 combo is not valid here so you were in more danger than you realized.$$W
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Dave Sigaty
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
@ez4u:
Position 2: I see you variation, but why don't you like it compared to the game?
Position 3: I can see your point, and I agree.
Position 7: Haha
Position 2: I see you variation, but why don't you like it compared to the game?
Position 3: I can see your point, and I agree.
Position 7: Haha
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Consider the two alternatives below. To my eye the first is preferable to the second. White's stones are all on the third or fourth line with no defects.
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$$ | . . X X X 4 3 7 . , . . . . . O . . . |
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Dave Sigaty
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Agree about no defects, but there is endgame implication in the 'a' area, no?
In the other variation, white seems to have better endgame follow up.
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$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O O W O 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 4 1 3 . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O W O 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 4 1 3 . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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In the other variation, white seems to have better endgame follow up.
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
Anyway, compared to the Atari I missed in the review from that last position you gave, this is subtle, it seems
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
I guess the wall with defects has endgame issues on the other side, too.
$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 3 4 O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 3 4 O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 3 4 O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O X O O . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Kirby's Study Journal
I was feeling a little down, so I didn't study that much this weekend. However, I did make it to the Seattle Go Center last week for a casual game. I never played him before, but I guess he said he is Tygem 5d - that's a bit stronger than me, so I took black.
I don't remember the precise game, and the sequence is messed up near the end. However, I remember up until the middle game. The end result was a loss by me by 4 points on the board. So he played better than me, and seems a bit stronger than me at the moment.
Here's the game record, as I roughly recollect it, with a few comments.
I don't remember the precise game, and the sequence is messed up near the end. However, I remember up until the middle game. The end result was a loss by me by 4 points on the board. So he played better than me, and seems a bit stronger than me at the moment.
Here's the game record, as I roughly recollect it, with a few comments.
(;CA[utf-8]FF[4]ST[0]C[I went to the Seattle Go Center on Saturday.
I played a casual game against another member. I've never played him before, but he said he was 5d on Tygem.
So I played as black.]
AP[WebGoBoard:0.10.8]SZ[19]GM[1]PB[Black]PW[White]KM[6.5]HA[0]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[pd];W[dp];B[pq];W[dc];B[fq];W[cn];B[qk]C[This is an opening I've decided to try out a little bit more.
Inseong calls it the "Aggressive Chinese Opening".]
;W[nc];B[pf]
(;W[qc]C[During the game, I thought it'd be similar.];B[pc];W[pb];B[qd];W[rb];B[rc]
;W[qb];B[lp]C[However, after reviewing with my opponent after, maybe white's approach at Q5 isn't so bad - even though black gets some profit on the bottom, the profit on the right can't be that big, since white already invaded the 3-3.]
;W[po];B[qp];W[ol];B[pm]
(;W[no]
(;B[om];W[nm]C[This way, I kind of gave white what he wanted - he could flexibly settle his stones, and counter-attack!]
;B[nl];W[mm];B[ok];W[ml];B[nk];W[jp]C[White was successful, I think.];B[mo];W[mp]
;B[lo];W[nq];B[lq];W[on];B[io];W[hp];B[ip];W[hq];B[ho];W[fp]
(;B[iq];W[eq]C[In the game, he fixed his shape, and it was pretty solid territory, with little aji.]
(;B[lj]C[After discussing with my opponent, this is probably the wrong direction.
It does help the right side, but the right side is still very open.
Furthermore, J5 can become weak, as it did during the game.]
;W[jl];B[kl];W[km];B[ll];W[qo];B[op];W[np];B[ro]
(;W[rn])
(;W[pp];B[rq];W[oq];B[pr];W[rn];B[rm];W[so];B[rp];W[qm];B[ql]
(;W[or];B[qr];W[mr];B[mn])
(;W[qn];B[mn];W[or];B[qr];W[mr]
(;B[nn];W[mf]C[Now we can see that M10 doesn't really secure much territory on the right.]
;B[ic];W[kc];B[fc];W[de]
(;B[md]
(;W[mc];B[kd])
(;W[nd];B[kd];W[lc];B[ld];W[of];B[pg];W[mc];B[jd]C[Now, I just have a weird shape.]
;W[fe];B[cg]
(;W[ck])
(;W[cf];B[dg];W[ck];B[ed];W[ee];B[cd];W[dd];B[bf];W[be];B[ce];W[bd];B[df];W[cc]
;B[dk]C[My goal was to attack K8 area on a large scale.];W[dj];B[cj];W[ej];B[bk]
;W[cl];B[ci];W[kj];B[lk];W[jf];B[eb];W[gb];B[gc];W[ib];B[jb];W[nh];B[ij];W[im];B[jn]
;W[jm];B[fk];W[ek])))
(;B[ie]C[Simply like this is better. White still has weaknesses around N16 area, and this is much better shape for my stones.]))
(;B[lm]C[This one is more valuable - there is less aji for white to play with, and black is strong.]))))
(;B[il];W[lj];B[nh]C[With something like this, I can more naturally make territory on the right.]))
(;B[cq]C[After the game, my opponent recommended this. I like it.];W[dq]C[The idea is that D3 is not as good at E3, so there is still some aji with the 3-3 stone.]
;B[iq]C[Now I can move back, and the exchange gave me aji to use.]))
(;B[ln]C[After the game, I came up with this move. I think it's a lot better.
I can continue to attack white, and make nice profit on the bottom.
I think this is a better direction.]))
(;W[om];B[on];W[pn];B[qm]C[I aimed at something like this. I wanted to make him heavier, and cut him.]))
(;W[pb]C[In Inseong's example, he shows this position.];B[lp]C[Black can now setup a position on the bottom.]
;W[po];B[qp];W[op]C[Normally, white can play this way, but the M4 stone is in a good position.]
;B[oq];W[np];B[nq]C[Black can attack the stones and maek profit on the bottom and right.]))
I played a casual game against another member. I've never played him before, but he said he was 5d on Tygem.
So I played as black.]
AP[WebGoBoard:0.10.8]SZ[19]GM[1]PB[Black]PW[White]KM[6.5]HA[0]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[pd];W[dp];B[pq];W[dc];B[fq];W[cn];B[qk]C[This is an opening I've decided to try out a little bit more.
Inseong calls it the "Aggressive Chinese Opening".]
;W[nc];B[pf]
(;W[qc]C[During the game, I thought it'd be similar.];B[pc];W[pb];B[qd];W[rb];B[rc]
;W[qb];B[lp]C[However, after reviewing with my opponent after, maybe white's approach at Q5 isn't so bad - even though black gets some profit on the bottom, the profit on the right can't be that big, since white already invaded the 3-3.]
;W[po];B[qp];W[ol];B[pm]
(;W[no]
(;B[om];W[nm]C[This way, I kind of gave white what he wanted - he could flexibly settle his stones, and counter-attack!]
;B[nl];W[mm];B[ok];W[ml];B[nk];W[jp]C[White was successful, I think.];B[mo];W[mp]
;B[lo];W[nq];B[lq];W[on];B[io];W[hp];B[ip];W[hq];B[ho];W[fp]
(;B[iq];W[eq]C[In the game, he fixed his shape, and it was pretty solid territory, with little aji.]
(;B[lj]C[After discussing with my opponent, this is probably the wrong direction.
It does help the right side, but the right side is still very open.
Furthermore, J5 can become weak, as it did during the game.]
;W[jl];B[kl];W[km];B[ll];W[qo];B[op];W[np];B[ro]
(;W[rn])
(;W[pp];B[rq];W[oq];B[pr];W[rn];B[rm];W[so];B[rp];W[qm];B[ql]
(;W[or];B[qr];W[mr];B[mn])
(;W[qn];B[mn];W[or];B[qr];W[mr]
(;B[nn];W[mf]C[Now we can see that M10 doesn't really secure much territory on the right.]
;B[ic];W[kc];B[fc];W[de]
(;B[md]
(;W[mc];B[kd])
(;W[nd];B[kd];W[lc];B[ld];W[of];B[pg];W[mc];B[jd]C[Now, I just have a weird shape.]
;W[fe];B[cg]
(;W[ck])
(;W[cf];B[dg];W[ck];B[ed];W[ee];B[cd];W[dd];B[bf];W[be];B[ce];W[bd];B[df];W[cc]
;B[dk]C[My goal was to attack K8 area on a large scale.];W[dj];B[cj];W[ej];B[bk]
;W[cl];B[ci];W[kj];B[lk];W[jf];B[eb];W[gb];B[gc];W[ib];B[jb];W[nh];B[ij];W[im];B[jn]
;W[jm];B[fk];W[ek])))
(;B[ie]C[Simply like this is better. White still has weaknesses around N16 area, and this is much better shape for my stones.]))
(;B[lm]C[This one is more valuable - there is less aji for white to play with, and black is strong.]))))
(;B[il];W[lj];B[nh]C[With something like this, I can more naturally make territory on the right.]))
(;B[cq]C[After the game, my opponent recommended this. I like it.];W[dq]C[The idea is that D3 is not as good at E3, so there is still some aji with the 3-3 stone.]
;B[iq]C[Now I can move back, and the exchange gave me aji to use.]))
(;B[ln]C[After the game, I came up with this move. I think it's a lot better.
I can continue to attack white, and make nice profit on the bottom.
I think this is a better direction.]))
(;W[om];B[on];W[pn];B[qm]C[I aimed at something like this. I wanted to make him heavier, and cut him.]))
(;W[pb]C[In Inseong's example, he shows this position.];B[lp]C[Black can now setup a position on the bottom.]
;W[po];B[qp];W[op]C[Normally, white can play this way, but the M4 stone is in a good position.]
;B[oq];W[np];B[nq]C[Black can attack the stones and maek profit on the bottom and right.]))
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