[go]$$Bcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . . . O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . 3 . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Are ... are there eyes here for White, somewhere? All these floating stones ...
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:38 pm
by Uberdude
@Marcus
Are you trying to kill white? What chance do you think there is of that? Or just attack for profit? If so where is the profit? Did you consider any other ways to attack?
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:37 pm
by EdLee
Instead of , how about:
$$B W resists with $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . . . O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . . O 3 X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X 1 O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . 2 4 5 . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ----------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . 5 . O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
@Uberdude
I could not find any outright (easy) killing attack. I thought about cutting around G5/F6/G7 and trying to swallow at least a piece of White's group. Similarly, I looked at J6/J7 and could not find a sequence I liked. That being said, looking at the board today, it feels like my descent at E2 erased any White profit on the bottom here anyways, and my previous move now looks rather odd to me (likely a waste of a move and worse; forcing White to fix some weakness here).
I don't think I gave J6 enough thought last move. White only has a very tentative connection everywhere. fixed things a bit for White,I think, making it a mistake. I think J6 has a better feel, and I have answers for most expected moves. J8 might be a bit dangerous, and there are several branches after I answer that peep. I need to see what he does before I make further plans.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:02 am
by iseijin
$$Bcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . X . O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm81 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X X X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . O 1 . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I had thought I could ignore this, but on further reading, I need to defend. Sadly, I'm not sure whether it's a good idea for me to continue this fight, but I'm going to. The outcome is far from clear to me yet.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:22 pm
by EdLee
Hmm, empty triangle. Important to reduce that W lib ? How about instead ?
$$B $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O . . . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X X X . X . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . O . O O O X . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . O . X X O X X . X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . O . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X , . . . . O O . X . 1 . , . . . | $$ | . . . . X O O . X . O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------
, how about:
instead ?