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Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 12:11 pm
by Marcus
Wow, this game has strategies, and meta-strategies, all over the place.

Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:06 pm
by MountainGo
I like the 3-5 now because it keeps White's options open.
And yeah, if Joaz is just going to vote randomly I'll vote him off too.
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:08 pm
by prokofiev
I vote for the attachment, 4-5. That is, E6.
Alternative strategy for Joaz: move using GnuGo. If applicable (I don't know how GnuGo works) tell us the seed you're using for random number generation (as well as all other specifications) so we can double check.
Not sure even this would save you, though: looking grim!
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:53 am
by Joaz Banbeck
daniel_the_smith wrote:G6. I'm planning on voting Joaz off since he insists on not giving us any information, I invite you to join me

topazg wrote:Haha, me too

fwiffo wrote:Dangit, I thought I was going to be the first to vote off Joaz for that reason.

MountainGo wrote:And yeah, if Joaz is just going to vote randomly I'll vote him off too.
Sigh. Have I landed in "Lord of the Flies"? Shall we expect you to start sporting face paint and attacking anybody who looks different or who thinks differently?
You guys are becoming bloody savages.
As a favor to you four, to aid in your badly-needed enlightenment, I offer an example of rationality. The Celtics won 104-86. My move is F6. ( rotated from F4, as the convention seems to be to put them in the northeast )
Connections here are flaky, more later.
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:33 pm
by topazg
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Sigh. Have I landed in "Lord of the Flies"? Shall we expect you to start sporting face paint and attacking anybody who looks different or who thinks differently?
You guys are becoming bloody savages.
Hehe, every good mafia don needs a scapegoat with which to feed the fishes

Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:43 pm
by Phelan
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a (C3): Jordus
b (E7): topazg
c (E6): fwiffo, prokofiev
d (G6): daniel_the_smith
e (F7): Chew Terr, Marcus
f (F6): Joaz Banbeck
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:52 pm
by topazg
Change mine to (e) - E6, I get my tengen crosscut fight after all

Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:58 pm
by Harleqin
The 'a' label seems to be misplaced.
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:00 pm
by Phelan
Harleqin wrote:The 'a' label seems to be misplaced.
Fixed, I think.
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:12 pm
by daniel_the_smith
Change mine to E, as it's the same point (still symmetrical)...
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:10 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
topazg wrote:Joaz Banbeck wrote:Sigh. Have I landed in "Lord of the Flies"? Shall we expect you to start sporting face paint and attacking anybody who looks different or who thinks differently?
You guys are becoming bloody savages.
Hehe, every good mafia don needs a scapegoat with which to feed the fishes

I should know better than to use an example from American literature with a Brit. He replies with a reference to Hollywood.

Ok, that vernacular works for me...I'll try again:
Have I landed in the "Twilight Zone"? Specifically, on Maple Street? (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monste ... ple_Street )
As Rod Serling says while the closing credits roll: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and the thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own: for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone."
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:23 pm
by Chew Terr
Ah, but Joaz... it's a game. The game is a give and take. You CAN perfectly hide your team affiliation. However, at the moment, while we have very little information on anyone, we have the least on you. This may seem good to you, but it means that no one has any reason at all to think that you are on their team. Statistically, there are X people on the opposing team, and X-1 (the one being myself) on my team. Thus, odds are slightly higher that you are on the opposing team. If that's all the information you're willing to give until you start playing moves on the board to make your team win in endgame, then I have to assume that you're slightly likely to be on the other team. With other players, while they are still unknown quantities, they are giving small amounts of information based on their current choices. Consequently, I can assume that I may be able to deduce their team later, and vote them off if they are not on mine. As a result, I know that the truly random player is a slightly worse than 50%, and it will never improve, so I'll be forced to vote you out as well. Unless, that is, you start to show information about you so that I can start to vote intelligently, instead of being reduced to choosing blindly.
By the way, I'm on team blite. Or is that team whack? Now I'm confusing myself.
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:36 pm
by Marcus
I know I'm DEFINITELY on team WHACK!

Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:39 am
by Phelan
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a (C3): Jordus
b (E6): fwiffo, prokofiev, topazg,
c (F7): Chew Terr, Marcus, daniel_the_smith
d (F6): Joaz Banbeck
Can I close the vote at
17h GMT+1(about 7 hours from now)?
Re: Mafia Go #1
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:09 am
by prokofiev
Errata: You have b in the wrong place, and daniel_the_smith voted for c, not b.