L19 2011/2012 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS

[Solomon]

Rearranged and updated: http://ywchoe.com/L19.html

Now that I've finally got stable Internet (and broken past the GFW) here in Beijing, I should be able to check daily again.

[Joaz Banbeck]

Rearranged and updated: http://ywchoe.com/L19.html...

[lorill]

My game against karaklis is planned for tomorrow (tuesday) at 13h CEST (UTC+2).

[CSamurai]

Are we clear to go ahead with round 3 pairings then? I've been waiting for the Chew/Oren match before setting up a time with Daniel, in case others dropped out/came in and altered the pairings in some way, but if round 3 is a go, I'll go ahead and set up my time..

[Joaz Banbeck]

I'm back in the US, and http://ywchoe.com/L19.html looks accurate for the third round. Third round, winner's bracket is a go. Lower bracket will be ready in a few days.

[lorill]

I won against karaklis by resign.

http://files.gokgs.com/games/2011/8/23/lorill-karaklis.sgf

Any comments are welcome, we aren't sure about a lot of moves, especially letting the first black invasion live, and then the two white invasions later in the game.

[Shaddy]

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]PW[lorill]PB[karaklis]WR[2k]DT[2011-08-23]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[lorill [2k]: have a nice game!
karaklis [?]: good game, have fun
]RE[W+Resign];B[pd]BL[2388.831];W[dc]WL[2374.632];B[pq]BL[2379.845];W[dp]WL[2358.546];B[qk]BL[2370.556];W[mp]WL[2325.25];B[pn]BL[2344.624]C[Should be Q5];W[jp]WL[2312.014];B[ce]BL[2320.213];W[ed]WL[2253.226];B[ch]BL[2305.863]C[Can (should?) be c11.];W[cj]WL[2211.496]C[I think white should c16 first];B[dj]BL[2246.081];W[dk]WL[2150.897];B[ej]BL[2228.074];W[ek]WL[2076.272]C[Should be c11];B[jd]BL[2185.306]C[Absolutely cannot tenuki. Either F9 or C11. Also, even if you were to tenuki, should be closer to e16.];W[fj]WL[1992.585]C[This is why you can't tenuki];B[bc]BL[2117.447];W[hc]WL[1981.739];B[gq]BL[2093.02];W[eq]WL[1944.424];B[jr]BL[2078.135];W[jq]WL[1883.316];B[ir]BL[2046.554];W[kr]WL[1869.899];B[go]BL[2020.115];W[in]WL[1801.015];B[gm]BL[1987.735];W[en]WL[1764.471];B[hl]BL[1946.716];W[jl]WL[1659.825];B[fk]BL[1883.891];W[fi]WL[1619.276];B[eh]BL[1837.143];W[ik]WL[1551.209];B[fr]BL[1796.912];W[hp]WL[1521.272];B[gp]BL[1783.896];W[er]WL[1499.143]C[H3 before this];B[hq]BL[1750.92];W[hn]WL[1404.696];B[gn]BL[1708.711];W[hk]WL[1309.404]C[Why? just play g9, b is dead];B[gk]BL[1686.084];W[hi]WL[1282.056];B[em]BL[1675.846];W[dm]WL[1235.446];B[el]BL[1660.319];W[dl]WL[1230.164];B[fn]BL[1642.761];W[eo]WL[1120.171];B[qf]BL[1598.082]C[Should be Q14 or O17 imo];W[nc]WL[1109.899];B[nd]BL[1567.618]C[Absolutely not, P17 is the only move];W[md]WL[1098.523];B[ne]BL[1557.955];W[me]WL[1090.379]C[Should be p17];B[mf]BL[1527.642];W[ke]WL[1057.332];B[lf]BL[1509.168];W[kd]WL[1035.511];B[hd]BL[1450.004];W[gd]WL[1020.299];B[he]BL[1443.23];W[gj]WL[997.722];B[fl]BL[1440.286];W[ff]WL[971.583]C[I prefer K17 to force b to connect along dame];B[ic]BL[1430.656];W[hb]WL[956.343];B[ib]BL[1396.347];W[fc]WL[919.973]C[You do not need to respond];B[ig]BL[1364.62];W[pc]WL[875.022];B[mc]BL[1325.099];W[lc]WL[840.59];B[oc]BL[1313.833];W[mb]WL[825.511];B[ob]BL[1303.417];W[jg]WL[783.224];B[jf]BL[1222.054];W[kf]WL[772.123];B[gg]BL[1142.202];W[fh]WL[697.672]C[Push at F13, not F12];B[fg]BL[1136.684];W[gf]WL[653.198];B[hf]BL[1104.069];W[je]WL[644.188];B[ef]BL[1066.926];W[ie]WL[618.602];B[id]BL[1008.847];W[cb]WL[568.275];B[kg]BL[997.131];W[jh]WL[522.103];B[kh]BL[986.758];W[mh]WL[495.172];B[ji]BL[975.362];W[ih]WL[476.567];B[lj]BL[954.255];W[if]WL[462.945];B[hg]BL[944.698];W[lg]WL[436.215];B[lh]BL[928.819];W[mg]WL[425.957];B[ng]BL[922.069];W[le]WL[413.987];B[nf]BL[918.259];W[mi]WL[400.868];B[mj]BL[817.053];W[oi]WL[376.739];B[ni]BL[794.619];W[nh]WL[358.348];B[nj]BL[789.371];W[og]WL[347.26];B[li]BL[784.13];W[qd]WL[320.781];B[qc]BL[761.826]C[Just R15 should be fine.];W[rc]WL[300.079];B[qb]BL[718.576];W[pe]WL[273.801];B[od]BL[692.909];W[qe]WL[255.202];B[oh]BL[610.506]C[Why so eager to capture? Play S14, if white connects you cut at Q14.];W[rf]WL[242.31];B[rg]BL[586.468];W[qg]WL[235.162];B[qh]BL[582.062];W[pf]WL[217.272];B[ph]BL[573.617];W[rh]WL[207.638];B[ri]BL[568.988];W[qp]WL[168.98];B[pp]BL[527.884]C[Block R3 imo];W[qo]WL[161.25];B[qn]BL[506.404];W[po]WL[151.658];B[oo]BL[500.796];W[qq]WL[142.866];B[np]BL[460.675];W[pr]WL[131.898];B[or]BL[452.097];W[qr]WL[123.618];B[mo]BL[445.295];W[oq]WL[101.411];B[op]BL[435.621];W[nq]WL[88.302];B[mq]BL[430.852];W[nr]WL[84.311];B[mr]BL[428.232];W[os]WL[79.761];B[lp]BL[422.287];W[ci]WL[52.69];B[sh]BL[397.006];W[rb]WL[46.882];B[rn]BL[378.835];W[bh]WL[29.68];B[cg]BL[364.227];W[bg]WL[8.628];B[bf]BL[361.239];W[bb]WL[40]OW[5];B[cd]BL[318.323];W[dh]WL[40]OW[5];B[dg]BL[311.316];W[ei]WL[40]OW[5];B[km]BL[150.192];W[jm]WL[40]OW[5];B[kl]BL[134.32];W[eg]WL[40]OW[5];B[fe]BL[131.352];W[eh]WL[40]OW[5];B[ge]BL[128.559];W[df]WL[40]OW[5];B[de]BL[105.183];W[cf]WL[40]OW[5];B[ee]BL[101.653];W[be]WL[40]OW[5];B[bd]BL[83.18];W[af]WL[40]OW[5];B[kb]BL[80.963];W[kc]WL[40]OW[5];B[ha]BL[40]OB[4];W[gb]WL[40]OW[5];B[jc]BL[40]OB[4];W[ja]WL[40]OW[5];B[ia]BL[40]OB[2];W[ka]WL[40]OW[5];B[eb]BL[40]OB[2];W[fb]WL[40]OW[5];B[lb]BL[40]OB[1];W[la]WL[40]OW[5];B[jb]BL[40]OB[2];W[ma]WL[40]OW[5];B[db]BL[40]OB[2];W[fd]WL[40]OW[5];B[ca]BL[40]OB[2];W[cc]WL[40]OW[5];B[ab]BL[40]OB[2];W[ba]WL[40]OW[5]C[karaklis [?]: thanks
lorill [2k]: thanks
lorill [2k]: you played better than me i feel
lorill [2k]: but I got you in the end
karaklis [?]: ah not really
lorill [2k]: let's review
])

[jts]

Barring sudden changes, quantumf and I will play 9:30 pm CET/2:30pm CDT on Saturday.

[Chew Terr]

Similarly, barring incident, Oren and I will play Thursday, 10 PM Central.

[lorill]

Thanks!

I thought about it, but I wanted to induce the B17 / K17 exchange.
the problem with c11 is that I have to connect C9 soon. Is it really worthy ?
I'm not sure about this one. It's good locally, but it seems so small globally.
That was the initial plan, but what if black takes the corner ?
I didn't want to kill. This looked too dangerous, my left side isn't so strong. Maybe I worry too much.
good idea. It didn't even occur to me to do this.
huh ? What if black plays G17 then ?
Yes! I missed it in the game, and in the review. Thanks for this one.

[Shaddy]

Thanks!

I thought about it, but I wanted to induce the B17 / K17 exchange.
the problem with c11 is that I have to connect C9 soon. Is it really worthy ?
I'm not sure about this one. It's good locally, but it seems so small globally.
That was the initial plan, but what if black takes the corner ?
I didn't want to kill. This looked too dangerous, my left side isn't so strong. Maybe I worry too much.
good idea. It didn't even occur to me to do this.
huh ? What if black plays G17 then ?
Yes! I missed it in the game, and in the review. Thanks for this one.

12: I prefer not to induce that exchange, since the corner is quite big and it's the difference between letting white get settled and not.

16: Yes.

18: It's good.

40: Fair.

44: Two things. 1. Your left side is not weak at all. 2. When you play moves like this because you're afraid that you're too thin, you actually tend to make the thinness more severe. I learned this the hard way against a 6d.

72: You can atari it from the bottom, don't worry about one stone. I think sente is worth more at this point

[lorill]

44: Two things. 1. Your left side is not weak at all. 2. When you play moves like this because you're afraid that you're too thin, you actually tend to make the thinness more severe. I learned this the hard way against a 6d.

I meant right side actually, but I think your point still stands. Thanks again.

[Chew Terr]

Similarly, barring incident, Oren and I will play Thursday, 10 PM Central.

And now, to see if he plays violin backwards while watching my groups burn... (I try to be clever, and tend to fail =D).

[oren]

I won against Chew Terr.

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[oren]PB[Chew]WR[5k]BR[3k]DT[2011-08-26]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[oren [5k?]: have a good game
Chew [3k]: Thank you, and enjoy the game
]RE[W+13.50]
;B[pd]BL[2369.419]
;W[dc]WL[2391.951]
;B[dp]BL[2343.756]
;W[pp]WL[2385.488]
;B[de]BL[2327.851]
;W[ce]WL[2380.265]
;B[cf]BL[2319.819]
;W[cd]WL[2377.656]
;B[df]BL[2304.553]
;W[fc]WL[2375.691]C[Rawar4me [9k]: go chew
]
;B[cj]BL[2269.583]C[Rawar4me [9k]: hey Kat hows that beer
]
;W[fq]WL[2367.325]C[katamaran [?]: nice and belgummy
Rawar4me [9k]: lol
]
;B[hq]BL[2218.07]
;W[cq]WL[2362.014]
;B[cp]BL[2208.084]
;W[dq]WL[2359.833]C[Chew [3k]: Hmmm, lot of lag tonight
Chew [3k]: On my end, at least
Rawar4me [9k]: he just told me never to do that
]
;B[ep]BL[2193.368]
;W[fp]WL[2355.31]
;B[eq]BL[2184.155]
;W[er]WL[2353.779]
;B[dr]BL[2167.91]
;W[fr]WL[2268.225]
;B[cr]BL[2165.569]
;W[fn]WL[2260.933]C[CSamurai [4k]: Why does Oren have White?
Rawar4me [9k]: i wondered the same thing
]
;B[qn]BL[2119.404]
;W[jq]WL[2246.389]
;B[nq]BL[2102.878]
;W[pn]WL[2239.811]C[oren [5k?]: seems ok to e
oren [5k?]: me
oren [5k?]: I just have mental lag
Chew [3k]: Heh. Maybe I should stop streaming music
]
;B[qq]BL[2043.806]
;W[pq]WL[2235.996]C[katamaran [?]: I hope you only listen to eye of the tiger while playing
]
;B[pr]BL[2034.078]
;W[or]WL[2234.557]C[Rawar4me [9k]: lol
]
;B[qr]BL[2030.637]
;W[oq]WL[2233.333]
;B[qp]BL[2018.747]C[Rawar4me [9k]: he cant see what we wright till the end of the game bro
]
;W[qm]WL[2226.319]C[katamaran [?]: oh duh
]
;B[rn]BL[2002.32]C[Rawar4me [9k]: lol
Rawar4me [9k]: its the beer talking
]
;W[qf]WL[2213.899]C[katamaran [?]: I find the beer does a lot of talking for me
]
;B[pm]BL[1985.698]
;W[on]WL[2208.581]C[Rawar4me [9k]: so do you understand belgem??
katamaran [?]: only in the context of beers
]
;B[pl]BL[1928.056]
;W[nc]WL[2200.073]
;B[nd]BL[1921.213]
;W[md]WL[2197.641]C[Rawar4me [9k]: nice well understand that i do speak arogrant bastared so ....
]
;B[ne]BL[1917.715]
;W[qc]WL[2176.818]
;B[qd]BL[1871.234]
;W[pc]WL[2174.057]C[Rawar4me [9k]: =)
]
;B[me]BL[1858.348]
;W[rd]WL[2170.229]
;B[re]BL[1837.511]
;W[rc]WL[2167.491]
;B[qe]BL[1835.585]
;W[oh]WL[2151.31]
;B[qi]BL[1779.589]C[jtscarry [4k]: i've never seen the sequence in the lower left before -- is that a common joseki?
]
;W[pj]WL[2112.923]C[CSamurai [4k]: N17 is awesome.
CSamurai [4k]: And JTS, no.
CSamurai [4k]: Not at all.
CSamurai [4k]: There is some joseki there, until f4.
jtscarry [4k]: have you seen it before?
]
;B[qj]BL[1748.837]C[CSamurai [4k]: At which point it becomes advantageous to black.
]
;W[pk]WL[2086.166]C[CSamurai [4k]: Wait, lower left which.
]
;B[qk]BL[1732.086]
;W[ol]WL[2083.623]C[CSamurai [4k]: Oh.
CSamurai [4k]: The lower right?
]
;B[ql]BL[1727.589]
;W[om]WL[2079.249]
;B[mc]BL[1724.891]
;W[oc]WL[2076.529]
;B[ld]BL[1720.458]
;W[od]WL[2074.594]C[jtscarry [4k]: no lower left
]
;B[oe]BL[1717.815]
;W[pf]WL[2073.411]C[CSamurai [4k]: Lower left.
jtscarry [4k]: the one you were talking about
]
;B[pe]BL[1699.815]C[CSamurai [4k]: Yeah, that's a standard pincer joseki up until f4
CSamurai [4k]: F4 is a bit overplayish.
]
;W[pi]WL[2057.114]C[CSamurai [4k]: Chew demonstrates with the cut.
jtscarry [4k]: oh ok, it's good for *black*
CSamurai [4k]: Usually pushing at e3 is bad.
CSamurai [4k]: But if white plays f4 it can become good for black quickly.
CSamurai [4k]: White backed down fromm a complex fight with f2.
]
;B[jm]BL[1640.735]
;W[ej]WL[2052.353]C[jtscarry [4k]: i guess it's a big corner but... the wall is good for white
jtscarry [4k]: as things turned out
Rawar4me [9k]: yea i just had a traing game with him and he told me never to do that
CSamurai [4k]: h3 still has /lots/ of aji.
CSamurai [4k]: Playing G5, F5, J5 sequence makes the wall less cool.
jtscarry [4k]: i'm curious about what would happen if w invites b to cut the other way, though
]
;B[go]BL[1596.735]C[jtscarry [4k]: seems hard to manage both sides
]
;W[fo]WL[2043.313]
;B[lp]BL[1577.158]C[CSamurai [4k]: Black doesn't really need to manage both sides.
CSamurai [4k]: So much aji.
CSamurai [4k]: I'm loving this sequence of plays for black.
]
;W[jr]WL[2007.508]C[CSamurai [4k]: White gets to reduce black's side but black gets to wreck white's potential.
jtscarry [4k]: oh geez. can that be right?
CSamurai [4k]: Can what be right?
jtscarry [4k]: k2
CSamurai [4k]: Eh.
jtscarry [4k]: it seems awfully submissive
CSamurai [4k]: I'm not sure white cares about this one stone right now.
]
;B[nr]BL[1518.187]C[CSamurai [4k]: Bigger things on the board, like, j17
]
;W[os]WL[1996.258]C[jtscarry [4k]: hmm
CSamurai [4k]: Though, if white keeps playing blind, the wall on the right looks dangerously eyeless.
jtscarry [4k]: idk white gave up a lot of territory to get the f and p file walls
]
;B[iq]BL[1491.646]C[jtscarry [4k]: he needs to play aggressively to make that back
]
;W[is]WL[1965.52]C[jtscarry [4k]: nooooooooo
]
;B[jp]BL[1464.432]
;W[kp]WL[1958.534]C[Rawar4me [9k]: =)
jtscarry [4k]: i guess this could work...
]
;B[ko]BL[1398.356]
;W[kq]WL[1953.404]C[CSamurai [4k]: I think wblack's fine with m5.
CSamurai [4k]: Haven't read close enough to be certain..
]
;B[io]BL[1353.373]
;W[lo]WL[1949.051]C[CSamurai [4k]: Or that. Can go with that..
]
;B[ln]BL[1292.772]
;W[mo]WL[1946.759]
;B[jn]BL[1217.059]
;W[ck]WL[1937.104]
;B[dk]BL[1144.282]
;W[dj]WL[1932.688]
;B[cl]BL[1141.361]
;W[ek]WL[1926.661]C[jtscarry [4k]: i think b should capture
greendemon [3k]: me too
]
;B[bk]BL[1092.54]C[greendemon [3k]: seems chew agrees
]
;W[dl]WL[1901.706]
;B[ck]BL[1076.048]
;W[dm]WL[1896.081]
;B[di]BL[1063.13]
;W[ic]WL[1876.44]
;B[mb]BL[1028.332]C[greendemon [3k]: white seems ahead
]
;W[nb]WL[1873.273]C[jtscarry [4k]: really?
Rawar4me [9k]: i think not
]
;B[mn]BL[972.114]C[jtscarry [4k]: i guess the upper left is pretty big
]
;W[no]WL[1864.553]C[jtscarry [4k]: you were right, csamurai, j17 *is* huge
CSamurai [4k]: Yeah.
CSamurai [4k]: I think it was bigger than the one stone at the time.
CSamurai [4k]: The cut at L4 was cute though
Shadonra [3d]: hmm, b ahead a little?
Shadonra [3d]: no, very even
Shadonra [3d]: what a boring game though
greendemon [3k]: it definitely seems close
Shadonra [3d]: if b gets c6 or c7 then b is ahead slightly
CSamurai [4k]: I think black needs to go ahead and build some territory here, yeah.
CSamurai [4k]: With one of those.
Shadonra [3d]: i count 48 points white, ~46 black
]
;B[qh]BL[817.242]C[CSamurai [4k]: erf.
Shadonra [3d]: nice
]
;W[cm]WL[1855.464]C[CSamurai [4k]: Not as big as c6
Shadonra [3d]: no, it is about the same
CSamurai [4k]: And white knows it.
CSamurai [4k]: Is it?
Shadonra [3d]: should be
]
;B[og]BL[789.445]C[Shadonra [3d]: good
CSamurai [4k]: Ahh.
CSamurai [4k]: Yeah.
CSamurai [4k]: I hadn't read out hte cut so I wasn't counting it yet.
CSamurai [4k]: That makes more sense.
greendemon [3k]: so Shaddy, how much do you count for the upper Left?
greendemon [3k]: for W?
Shadonra [3d]: i memorized the white corner is 13 points, then 6 more for the extension
Shadonra [3d]: so ~19
CSamurai [4k]: Yeah.
Shadonra [3d]: nm, 21
CSamurai [4k]: I guessed around 20 there.
Shadonra [3d]: i missed a line lol
greendemon [3k]: + about 20 on the bottom?
greendemon [3k]: + upper r + komi
]
;W[se]WL[1786.114]C[Shadonra [3d]: 19 bottom
Shadonra [3d]: 11 top
]
;B[sf]BL[768.54]C[Shadonra [3d]: 57.5 for white
]
;W[sd]WL[1784.734]
;B[rf]BL[754.639]C[CSamurai [4k]: Black needs to take some sente and get some reduction going on.
Shadonra [3d]: right side black has 34 at least
Shadonra [3d]: bottom left is 12ish
Shadonra [3d]: left is 11
Shadonra [3d]: and the middle group is definitely at least 7
]
;W[bf]WL[1736.549]
;B[bg]BL[748.504]
;W[bh]WL[1731.632]C[Shadonra [3d]: WAT
Shadonra [3d]: b wins
CSamurai [4k]: B15?
Shadonra [3d]: yeah
Shadonra [3d]: w has nothing
CSamurai [4k]: What is there to think about?
Shadonra [3d]: the cut
Shadonra [3d]: but i don't think it works
greendemon [3k]: b15 c13 a14 d12
CSamurai [4k]: c13, then c11? Or just C11 first?
]
;B[be]BL[679.397]
;W[ci]WL[1720.839]C[Shadonra [3d]: perfect, greendemon
CSamurai [4k]: c12.
Shadonra [3d]: no, should b11
CSamurai [4k]: Oh, you're right.
]
;B[bi]BL[646.725]C[Shadonra [3d]: w corner shrinks to 17 points
]
;W[ch]WL[1707.59]C[Shadonra [3d]: and b gets some extra points
]
;B[dh]BL[632.452]
;W[ai]WL[1705.205]
;B[bj]BL[630.58]
;W[bd]WL[1669.566]
;B[af]BL[627.475]C[jtscarry [4k]:
]
;W[bn]WL[1650.574]C[greendemon [3k]: it's a very empty middle
Shadonra [3d]: yes, a boring game
]
;B[bo]BL[561.219]C[greendemon [3k]: maybe W could try f15 or therabouts?
]
;W[bl]WL[1645.432]C[Shadonra [3d]: it's too small
Shadonra [3d]: l18 biggest i think
]
;B[cg]BL[528.2]
;W[bq]WL[1635.777]C[jtscarry [4k]: what
]
;B[br]BL[522.344]C[Shadonra [3d]: d1 endgame tesuji
greendemon [3k]: i see
]
;W[ll]WL[1593.706]C[CSamurai [4k]: White has played a very solid game.
Shadonra [3d]: b o12 now, i guess?
]
;B[ml]BL[465.782]
;W[mk]WL[1590.1]
;B[mm]BL[417.396]
;W[nk]WL[1579.449]C[jtscarry [4k]: going back to b14... was that the largest move on the board?
Shadonra [3d]: it definitely wasn't small, i think l18 was bigger
Shadonra [3d]: and i think w should have played b15-b14-hane-connect-l18
]
;B[lk]BL[342.431]
;W[kl]WL[1560.055]C[CSamurai [4k]: L18 for white?
Shadonra [3d]: yeah
CSamurai [4k]: Ahh
]
;B[kk]BL[318.16]
;W[jl]WL[1558.454]
;B[ik]BL[310.689]C[Shadonra [3d]: b too greedy.. gonna get burned
]
;W[il]WL[1550.995]
;B[jk]BL[212.03]
;W[hl]WL[1547.576]C[Shadonra [3d]: b group not even alive now
CSamurai [4k]: h6 makes it live.
CSamurai [4k]: I was just reading that out.
Shadonra [3d]: yes, but it shouldn't have to add a move
Shadonra [3d]: it's a ponnuki with tiger mouths coming off of it
]
;B[gn]BL[174.581]
;W[hk]WL[1532.646]
;B[lh]BL[107.775]C[greendemon [3k]:
]
;W[ii]WL[1501.57]
;B[jb]BL[81.659]C[Shadonra [3d]: o12 big.. so is g7
Shadonra [3d]: this also big
]
;W[ib]WL[1495.702]C[Shadonra [3d]: g7 looks like sente
]
;B[jc]BL[49.43]
;W[li]WL[1470.914]
;B[ki]BL[44.458]
;W[kh]WL[1463.591]
;B[mi]BL[39.308]
;W[lg]WL[1459.659]
;B[mh]BL[24.687]
;W[ng]WL[1453.752]
;B[of]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[mg]WL[1450.196]
;B[kg]BL[40]OB[5]C[CSamurai [4k]: Looks like black needs k12..
CSamurai [4k]: er..
]
;W[jh]WL[1441.106]C[CSamurai [4k]: Or, the cut that works out badly..
Shadonra [3d]: oh, this sucks
]
;B[nh]BL[40]OB[4]C[Shadonra [3d]: i think b can live
CSamurai [4k]: Black now needs both l14 and O..
Shadonra [3d]: wait no
CSamurai [4k]: Or he could let white have the ladder.
Shadonra [3d]: gg
]
;W[mj]WL[1414.177]C[CSamurai [4k]: Yeah.
CSamurai [4k]: That's game.
]
;B[lf]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ni]WL[1408.707]
;B[id]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[hd]WL[1393.532]C[jtscarry [4k]: hey greendemon, are you from chicago?
]
;B[he]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gd]WL[1390.75]
;B[ia]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[hb]WL[1378.104]
;B[ha]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ga]WL[1375.864]
;B[ja]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gb]WL[1373.203]
;B[if]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fh]WL[1349.859]
;B[hh]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[hi]WL[1344.12]
;B[gh]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gi]WL[1341.346]
;B[gm]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fl]WL[1335.795]C[greendemon [3k]: i'm currently in chicago
]
;B[dd]BL[40]OB[4]C[Shadonra [3d]: no, don't throw away your 4 pt sente
Shadonra [3d]: what are you doing
jtscarry [4k]: do you play at any of the clubs around here?
]
;W[cc]WL[1317.065]C[greendemon [3k]: i've been to the intelligensia one a few times
jtscarry [4k]: same, maybe we'll run into each other there
greendemon [3k]: cool
]
;B[fg]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[jg]WL[1306.126]
;B[kf]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ak]WL[1219.81]
;B[ah]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[co]WL[1204.616]
;B[do]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ao]WL[1185.544]
;B[bp]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fi]WL[1124.397]
;B[na]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[oa]WL[1121.221]
;B[ma]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[pb]WL[1114.094]C[CSamurai [4k]: unnecissary
]
;B[ge]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[jf]WL[1104.144]
;B[je]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ff]WL[1098.528]
;B[fe]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gg]WL[1095.593]
;B[hg]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[eg]WL[1094.074]
;B[cn]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ap]WL[1064.061]
;B[aq]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[an]WL[1062.711]
;B[aj]BL[40]OB[4]C[jtscarry [4k]: ha
]
;W[qo]WL[1036.194]
;B[ro]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[po]WL[1034.717]
;B[al]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[bm]WL[1032.48]
;B[gr]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[km]WL[1017.415]
;B[kn]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[im]WL[992.62]
;B[in]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gp]WL[986.904]
;B[hp]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gs]WL[979.838]C[jtscarry [4k]: ok, there's a cut now
]
;B[hr]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[hs]WL[976.74]
;B[dn]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fm]WL[961.474]
;B[gl]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[gk]WL[959.181]
;B[hm]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ph]WL[953.843]
;B[pg]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ps]WL[924.451]
;B[qs]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ed]WL[921.34]
;B[fd]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ih]WL[913.147]
;B[gf]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fg]WL[908.915]
;B[ig]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ds]WL[896.898]
;B[cs]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ad]WL[884.263]
;B[es]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ae]WL[880.808]
;B[bf]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[en]WL[872.974]
;B[ds]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[fs]WL[870.292]
;B[mf]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ee]WL[859.795]
;B[ef]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ec]WL[858.231]
;B[dg]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ei]WL[855.161]
;B[ak]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[nf]WL[845.59]
;B[nl]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[am]WL[841.256]
;B[nn]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[ir]WL[838.082]
;B[ip]BL[40]OB[4]C[CSamurai [4k]: ?!
]
;W[gq]WL[829.932]
;B[nm]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[lm]WL[827.382]
;B[eh]BL[40]OB[4]
;W[eo]WL[812.941]
;B[]BL[40]OB[4]C[CSamurai [4k]: j4 wasted point?
]
;W[]WL[812.94]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][ob][qb][rb][sb][ac][bc][gc][hc][sc][lh][mh][nh][ji][ki][mi][oi][fj][gj][hj][ij][jj][kj][lj][nj][oj][fk][ik][jk][kk][lk][ok][el][em][oo][lp][mp][np][op][lq][mq][nq][kr][lr][mr][nr][js][ks][ls][ms][ns]TB[ka][la][kb][lb][kc][lc][jd][kd][md][ie][ke][le][hf][pf][qf][ag][qg][rg][sg][bh][ch][rh][sh][ai][ci][ri][si][rj][sj][rk][sk][rl][sl][qm][rm][sm][hn][sn][co][ho][jo][so][rp][sp][bq][cq][dq][rq][sq][ar][rr][sr][as][bs][rs][ss]C[Chew [3k]: Thank you for the game
oren [5k?]: thanks
CSamurai [4k]: Well played Oren
oren [5k?]: thanks
Shadonra [3d]: chew, you threw away the game!
oren [5k?]: tiring game
oren [5k?]: haha
Chew [3k]: Yes, you did very well
jtscarry [4k]: great game guys
Shadonra [3d]: well played, oren
oren [5k?]: having to play moyo style was hard
Shadonra [3d]: want a review?
CSamurai [4k]: Good game to both players.
Chew [3k]: Please
])

[Chew Terr]

I won against Chew Terr.

Thank you very much for the game, and thank you to Shaddy for the review. Oren, you played very well, and I look forwards to seeing you play (was it Joaz?) next.