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Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:48 pm
by illluck
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . + . X . X X O . O . |
$$ | O . . X . X O O O O O |
$$ | . O X O . X X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X . . . . X X . |
$$ | O O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X O O X O X |
$$ | O X X O O O X X X X X |
$$ | O O X O . O O O X X O |
$$ | . O O O + O O 1 O O O |
$$ | . . . . X O 2 . O . X |
$$ | . . . . . X + . X X . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


I feel so lost...

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:16 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . + . X . X X O . O . |
$$ | O . . X . X O O O O O |
$$ | . O X O . X X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X . . . . X X . |
$$ | O O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X O O X O X |
$$ | O X X O O O X X X X X |
$$ | O O X O . O O O X X O |
$$ | . O O O + O O 1 O O O |
$$ | . . . . X O 2 . O 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . X + . X X . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


That was a blunder wasn't it?

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[go]$$Bcm101 :w2: just below :w4:
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . + . X . X X O . O . |
$$ | O . . X . X O O O O O |
$$ | . O X O . X X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X . . . . X X . |
$$ | O O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X O O X O X |
$$ | O X X O O O X X X X X |
$$ | O O X O . O O O X X O |
$$ | . O O O + O O 4 O O O |
$$ | . . . . X O . + O 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . X + . X X . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


This seemed best for both?

As it is, this looks a lot harder for White:

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[go]$$Bcm101 :w4: to the right of :w2:
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . + . X . X X O . O . |
$$ | O . . X . X O O O O O |
$$ | . O X O . X X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X . . . . X X . |
$$ | O O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X O O X O X |
$$ | O X X O O O X X X X X |
$$ | O O X O . O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O O + O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O 2 + . 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . X + . X X . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:18 pm
by illluck
Ah, that simutaneous capture XDDDDD

I resign, thank you for the game :) I admit that my initial impressions were off - the variant is quite interesting, though confusing.

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:27 pm
by MarkSteere
That was an awesome spectacle to behold! Thanks for the unexpected treat, guys. Wandering around my studio playing the sax, and watching two excellent Go players test out Redstone. It doesn't get any better :)

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:41 pm
by topazg
And Mark, I want to eat both my words and my hat, that was fun, deep and interesting!

The endgame could get tedious when you start filling out all your eyes, but with skill you'll know when you've won and lost and be happy to resign, and besides, Go is tedious when your opponent starts playing in your territory when each stone is clearly dead.

So, anyone else for a game?

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:03 pm
by MarkSteere
topazg wrote:And Mark, I want to eat both my words and my hat, that was fun, deep and interesting!

No worries :) I'm glad you like the game.

Hopefully someone will accept your challenge. Luis? :D

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:59 pm
by Dusk Eagle
I'm interested in trying this out with you topazg. I've made a new thread for it:

http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=5533

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:23 am
by Bill Spight
Congratulations to both players! :)

Interesting game with new insights by both.

And congratulations to Mark! A very interesting go variant! :)

Hmmm. When will we see the first book of Tsume-redstone problems. ;)

Re: Red, a Go variant

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:33 pm
by MarkSteere
Bill Spight wrote:And congratulations to Mark! A very interesting go variant! :)

Thanks Bill :)