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Re: Topazg vs. Yithril

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:48 pm
by yithril
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: :b100: :w100:
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I thought 1 was kind of weird and was wondering why you didn't lightly reduce me at a. since you didn't turn at b your base is like not really existent here so I just thought taking control of the center keeps White in check. My being weak on the bottom is an asset to you. stuff like b becomes dangerous.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:56 pm
by EdLee
Interesting game, thanks. Topazg,
topazg wrote:Hmmm, I resign!
Too early indeed. :) A little bird told me if :black: attaches at C11... :)

Re: Topazg vs. Yithril

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:24 am
by topazg
yithril wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . X . X . X O . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
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I thought 1 was kind of weird and was wondering why you didn't lightly reduce me at a. since you didn't turn at b your base is like not really existent here so I just thought taking control of the center keeps White in check. My being weak on the bottom is an asset to you. stuff like b becomes dangerous.


Yeah, this is interesting. I actually rejected this because it seemed a bit directionless, but considering that only a few moves later I was really wanting to reduce White's left, and considering the purpose of leaning against a group with a move like :b1: is designed normally to gain strength to attack in the other direction, "a" starts to make a lot more sense than I gave it credit for.

I'm slightly of the opinion that securing in the top right at the end of the joseki should have been a lower left approach, but it also felt very honte, so I'd love a professional opinion on whether or not it was the right timing to complete that corner joseki.

@Ed: Yeah, I'd looked very hard at the attachment, and if I was going to continue there, I'd probably play that as a starter before deciding whether or not to extricate my earlier contact mistake. If White hanes on top it certainly looks like there's a lot of useful aji to play with, and if White hanes underneath I perhaps can start using the other stone effectively.

Either way, a combination of frustration at my miscalulation with F8, the successful White invasion, and a very difficult week made me feel that enough was enough. I'm not too unhappy with the majority of the game, and indeed I didn't feel like Black was doing too badly until the lower side went a bit pear-shaped, but I think my honest chances of winning from here are very slim, and I want yithril to be able to focus fully against magicwand ;)