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Another game
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:11 am
by Ades
this is a game i just played..
im playing as white
i giveaway lots of territory
i need help in reviewing the game..
thanks
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:20 am
by EdLee
Hi Ades,

wrong shape. What's your plan if

hanes N16 ?
Did you see that if

N16, you get a bad shape
for your 2 stones

-

? "Hane head of 2," twice.
Basic shape: "hane head of 2 (enemy stones)":
$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . . O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
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[go]$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . . O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .[/go]
Often (but NOT always), this shape is good for B.
The

stone is the hane, at the head of the 2 enemy

stones.
Basic shape: hane head of 2, twice:
$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . B O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
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[go]$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . B O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .[/go]
Often (but NOT always), this shape is good for B.
Notice the 2

stones are down to only 2 liberties.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:40 am
by EdLee
Hi Ades,

Can you connect to your Q18 stone ?
Re: Another game
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:03 am
by Ades
Hi Edlee
thanks for the review
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:07 am
by EdLee
Hi Ades, you're welcome.

instead of the connect, what happens if you cut K17 ?

why ?

study the cut K17.

study the push J15.
Re:
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:09 am
by Ades
EdLee wrote:Hi Ades, you're welcome.

instead of the connect, what happens if you cut K17 ?

why ?

study the cut K17.
black group die?
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:12 am
by EdLee
Ades wrote:black group die?
Good question.
Please show your study here, with diagrams.
Review means:
you work.

Re: Another game
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:53 am
by Ades
$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:55 am
by EdLee
Ades wrote:$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]
Why would W want to crawl on the first line with

? You let B make the big atari up :
$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 O O X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . 2 X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 O O X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . 2 X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]