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Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:07 pm**

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In the NHK Cup

Full game record: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/43238

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:51 pm**

That does not so much like an opening as a middle game started too early.

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:13 pm**

So, its sorta like Ohashi Hirofumi's Black Hole, only twisted slightly

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:28 pm**

xed_over wrote:So, its sorta like Ohashi Hirofumi's Black Hole, only twisted slightly

It's rotating and growing larger.

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:19 pm**

Awesome.

The result? B+3.5

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:32 pm**

This was played by Cho U a couple of weeks ago (and likely a couple of months ago on Tygem). See http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 10&t=10710

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:39 pm**

illluck wrote:This was played by Cho U a couple of weeks ago (and likely a couple of months ago on Tygem). See http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 10&t=10710

Ohashi Hirofumi mentioned Cho U (I think) in his video when he was talking about the Black Hole

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:46 pm**

the whole game record from Mr Kin's site (for those without go4go access -- thanks Mace Lee for the find)

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:23 pm**

I'd just like to get reasonable results from orthodox play. Seeing players get good results from moves that look like they make no sense is extremely frustrtaing.

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:54 pm**

If I had forsaken other career/education opportunities and spent tens or even hundreds of thousands of hours studying Go to become a professional I would be extremely frustrated if I wasn't able to do things an amateur who only spent a few hours a week on Go could.

Posted: **Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:56 pm**

Thanks for sharing this game! It makes me happy to think that the final chapter on good go play might not be written, though I'm doubtful this sort of play would hold up in longer games. Still, if there were no one willing to experiment we might miss out on some potentially beautiful games.

Posted: **Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:49 am**

I missed seeing this broadcast because I was out playing Go.

Does anyone know who did the commentary on TV? It must have been challenging!

Posted: **Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:12 am**

I know a commentary by Ôhashi Hirofumi, who has played several of these "unusual" openings, in which he stated that "usually" -- maybe around move 80 or so -- the resulting POSITIONs look very much like "normal" ones, with the exception of only a very, very few stones.

I am quite sure that he referred to pro-pro-games.

Posted: **Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:44 am**

ez4u wrote:I missed seeing this broadcast because I was out playing Go. Does anyone know who did the commentary on TV? It must have been challenging!

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~bg2t-tkg/nhk/nhk.html
still has last weeks game (9/7) up... but once they update it for this week (9/14), the commentator link will be:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~bg2t-tkg/nhk/kai.jpg

Posted: **Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:20 pm**

I like that he ends up sacrificing

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