Page 1 of 1

1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:28 pm
by tekesta
Recently I've mused on whether it is better to replay single-diagram kifu or 50-move diagram kifu. Well, I'll put on the table my initial impressions.

Replaying a single-diagram kifu is closer in feel to an actual game. At least one is forced to look around inside the record for each move. This trains the brain to look at the board and read out moves before putting down a stone, I think. Also, less paper is used :)

The 50-move-diagram kifu are easier to play through and may be more digestible for beginners who find single diagrams too time-consuming. This might be better for replaying just to absorb moves.

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:35 pm
by oren
I prefer 25 move diagrams. :)

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:37 pm
by Bill Spight
I like to replay SGF files and guess the next move. :)

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:38 pm
by Abyssinica
oren wrote:I prefer 25 move diagrams. :)
It's great if I just want to get through the game without searching.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:27 pm
by EdLee
tekesta wrote:Also, less paper is used :)
Actually, a single big diagram with big :black: stones versus 4 smaller 15-move diagrams all printed on the same page, the paper used is the same (1 page), the ink used is unclear (big :black: stones once, versus smaller :black: stones printed multiple times. )

Re:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:31 am
by ez4u
EdLee wrote:
tekesta wrote:Also, less paper is used :)
Actually, a single big diagram with big :black: stones versus 4 smaller 15-move diagrams all printed on the same page, the paper used is the same (1 page), the ink used is unclear (big :black: stones once, versus smaller :black: stones printed multiple times. )
What's this 'paper' stuff you're all talking about? :scratch:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:51 am
by EdLee
Hi Dave,

Once upon a time there were these things called trees... :)

Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:10 am
by oren
ez4u wrote: What's this 'paper' stuff you're all talking about? :scratch:
I actually do this for pdfs. :)

Re:

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:10 am
by oca
EdLee wrote:Hi Dave,

Once upon a time there were these things called trees... :)
Do you mean that useless green thing that "just" transform co2 to oxigen ? :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:23 am
by EdLee
oca wrote:Do you mean that useless green thing that "just" transform co2 to oxigen ? :lol:
CO2 to O2, yes. :)

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:05 pm
by tekesta
By "less paper", I meant that whereas a single-diagram kifu can be printed on just 1 page, a 50-move diagram kifu usually needs more than one.

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:10 pm
by tekesta
Bill Spight wrote:I like to replay SGF files and guess the next move. :)
I'm fascinated by guessing the next move, but I yet have to gain more experience and knowledge before I can do it consistently. I know that my baduk skills will get better once I'm able to do so.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:37 pm
by EdLee
tekesta wrote:By "less paper", I meant that whereas a single-diagram kifu can be printed on just 1 page, a 50-move diagram kifu usually needs more than one.
4 smaller diagrams on the same 1 page.

Re:

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:35 am
by tekesta
EdLee wrote:4 smaller diagrams on the same 1 page.
Forgot about that one :oops: However, I find it a bit difficult to follow the small numbers on these shrunk diagrams without a magnifying glass. With a bit of effective formatting one can make the diagrams as large as can fit within 1 page.

Re: 1-diagram game records vs. 50-move diagram game records

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:44 pm
by xed_over
sorry, I'm late to the party...

I prefer a single page, whole game diagram... its a form of guess the next move.