Life In 19x19

I hope that I posted my question in the appropriate forum

How did you get you hands on the kifu? Or was it one of your own games? If it is for a important game it must be quite valuable. Most people have to be satisfied with a copy of the game record.

DrStraw wrote:How did you get you hands on the kifu? Or was it one of your own games? If it is for a important game it must be quite valuable. Most people have to be satisfied with a copy of the game record.

Many are those that can learn important things from careful review of the kifu. It can add greatly to their knowledge of GO

It appears that I wasn't clear with my question I meant replaying pro kifus repeatedly with board and stones as part of a training regimen, without pausing to analyze anything. If done enough times, it can be an example of yin segueing into yang.

tekesta wrote:

DrStraw wrote:How did you get you hands on the kifu? Or was it one of your own games? If it is for a important game it must be quite valuable. Most people have to be satisfied with a copy of the game record.

Many are those that can learn important things from careful review of the kifu. It can add greatly to their knowledge of GO

It appears that I wasn't clear with my question I meant replaying pro kifus repeatedly with board and stones as part of a training regimen, without pausing to analyze anything. If done enough times, it can be an example of yin segueing into yang.

Perhaps I did not make myself clear. I am wondering why replaying the kifu instead of the game record makes any difference. In fact, I would think that a printed game record would be easier to read than the kifu, which would surely be hand written. And I am also wondering how you got you hands on the kifu.

DrStraw wrote:Perhaps I did not make myself clear. I am wondering why replaying the kifu instead of the game record makes any difference. In fact, I would think that a printed game record would be easier to read than the kifu, which would surely be hand written. And I am also wondering how you got you hands on the kifu.

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dad: hello hungry, I'm dad

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dad: hello hungry, I'm dad

Ah, you played that game with your kid as well, did you! Although I am not so sure what it has to do with kifu.

DrStraw wrote:

xed_over wrote:son: I'm hungry
dad: hello hungry, I'm dad

Ah, you played that game with your kid as well, did you! Although I am not so sure what it has to do with kifu.

you know very well what the original poster is speaking of, in spite of him using what you (and others) consider the wrong terminology. yet, you don't point out that fact, instead, you simply make fun by by using the same words back at him with your different meaning that is not yet obvious to him.

Someone who has made 331 posts has no excuse for using the wrong term.

DrStraw wrote:Someone who has made 331 posts has no excuse for using the wrong term.

At whom exactly should Tekesta then address their apology, at whose feet sink down in shame? And who will sing songs of praise for the custodians of orthodoxy?

I don't generally think in terms of yin and yang, but I certainly think that a lot of subconscious training (e.g. replaying pro games) can have an effect on conscious thought. I also believe the converse: the conscious choices we make, in go or otherwise, eventually train our subconscious ways of thinking.

Replaying pro games can be a very pleasant way to keep my mind engaged with go when I am too tired (or not in the mood) for the mental struggle that is required for solving difficult problems or playing a game. I suppose I engage it as a "yin" activity in this way, though I don't do enough of it to produce an immediately noticeable effect in my play. It is fun, though.

Someone who has made 1230 posts has no excuse for not knowing the names of some modern professional players.

DrStraw wrote:I am wondering why replaying the kifu instead of the game record makes any difference.

DrStraw wrote:Someone who has made 331 posts has no excuse for using the wrong term.

I'm confused: which wrong term ?
The Sensei entry on game record seems to imply they are synonymous to each other.
( Yes, I know Sensei's is not always 100% accurate -- is there a mistake in this case ? )

Someone who has made 1230 posts has no excuse for not knowing the names of some modern professional players.

He has my full support. Actually the real irony is that he doesn't understand the meanings (plural) of kifu himself. But that very fact validates his underlying point: don't use unnecessary, poorly understood or controversial foreign terms.

Above all, ban goban. Ban jubango. Ban moku. Ban twee macrons on Japanese words.

Or just ban everything. It's simpler.

Oh, I know there are multiple meaning, John. I was just being a little obtuse because, like you, I get so tired of people using the term, and others you mention, when there is no need. So I looked up the SL entry and decided to interpret it exactly as stated there.

The people who use these words would probably be the first to complain if we started using the Japanese terms for the various types of pincers or extensions.