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Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:42 pm
by EdLee
Some gamers mad at Mr. Kimmel:

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:53 pm
by Solomon
1) He just seems out of touch.
2) People be salty.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:29 pm
by daal
Araban wrote:1) He just seems out of touch.
2) People be salty.
1) I think you have the order wrong.
2) People flipping out because someone is making fun of your hobby are more out of touch than Kimmel.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:33 pm
by Abyssinica
If you make money is it just merely a hobby anymore?

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:45 pm
by daal
Abyssinica wrote:If you make money is it just merely a hobby anymore?
People get paid to watch video games??! I guess I'm out of touch too!

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:05 am
by wineandgolover
OMG, the comments.

I never read YouTube comments. Now I remember why.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:11 am
by Knotwilg
Before you know it, you're watching a video about someone making fun of people watching videos.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:11 am
by Abyssinica
daal wrote:
Abyssinica wrote:If you make money is it just merely a hobby anymore?
People get paid to watch video games??! I guess I'm out of touch too!
Other way around

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:40 am
by daal
Abyssinica wrote:
daal wrote:
Abyssinica wrote:If you make money is it just merely a hobby anymore?
People get paid to watch video games??! I guess I'm out of touch too!
Other way around
Sorry, I totally don't understand what you are saying. :-?

In the Jimmy Kimmel video that got so many hate comments, he made fun of people watching other people playing video games. The people who wrote the hate mail were presumably not the people playing the games, but rather those who think that watching other people play games is a reasonable way to spend their time (It's one of their hobbies). The hate mail is inappropriate.

Do you agree with my description?

If yes, I have two questions: Why do you point out that people make money playing video games - nobody was making fun of them, and what do I have the wrong way around?

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:41 am
by Abyssinica
I include the people making money from doing it as the people who watch it in one group.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:47 am
by Uberdude
daal wrote:People get paid to watch video games??! I guess I'm out of touch too!
Well, I think these people get paid to watch TV in a TV programme about people watching TV! (I think that's what it's about, I've never watched it)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogglebox

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:06 am
by daal
Abyssinica wrote:I include the people making money from doing it as the people who watch it in one group.
I put apples and tomatoes in one group, what does that have to do with the price of beans?

The fact that some people make money playing video games has nothing to do with making fun of people watching other people play video games.
Uberdude wrote:
daal wrote:People get paid to watch video games??! I guess I'm out of touch too!
Well, I think these people get paid to watch TV in a TV programme about people watching TV! (I think that's what it's about, I've never watched it)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogglebox
Gogglebox is something different (and also wierd) but Kimmel was referring to something different. He was talking about about YouTube Gaming - "a YouTube platform on which people who play video games can watch other people play video games."

He goes on to say: "and of course I made fun of this, because there are people watching other people play video games." This is not people who are paid, this is about the way people choose to spend their free time.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:22 am
by SpongeBob
Very entertaining - thanks for sharing, Ed.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:31 am
by Abyssinica
Your apples and tomatos don't depend on each other to exist. Why make fun of the people consuming content but not also the content creators if the content is so bad?

If tomatos and beans are complementary or substitude goods, try would affect the prices of each other.

Re: Some gamers v. Jimmy Kimmel

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:00 am
by wineandgolover
Abyssinica wrote:If you make money is it just merely a hobby anymore?
Abyssinica wrote:I include the people making money from doing it as the people who watch it in one group.
For the people making money, it is clearly a profession.
For the people watching the videos, it is clearly a hobby.

Do we have to argue about everything here?
Abyssinica wrote:Why make fun of the people consuming content but not also the content creators if the content is so bad?
We make fun of everybody in this world. It's part of comedy. Friends rib each other. Women humorously mock their partners, and vice versa. Comedians make fun of everybody.

Where it becomes potentially inappropriate is when one makes fun of a persecuted people, especially using the tools of said persecution, or when the joking turns to bullying.

To my knowledge video gamers and their followers are not generally accepted as a persecuted group. And I don't think Kimmel was particularly bullying either. Certainly, the comments employed ageist, racist, sizest, and generally hateful language.

But the point Kimmel's follow-up wasn't, "I'm being persecuted!" it was, "This is comedy gold!"

So no harm done, right?