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pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:00 pm
by emeraldemon
$$B
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$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 1 . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 1 . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . .
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My DB doesn't have
, so I assume it's a mistake. What's the best move for black?
$$Bm What I played in the game
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
This is what I played, to steal the eye, but now I don't want to take gote to keep that stone alive.
Re: pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:01 pm
by Abyssinica
Maybe you just extend along the side like if white had played your
move like he was supposed to first and treat this exchange lightly cause it already kind of cramps him?
Re: pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:11 pm
by ez4u
emeraldemon wrote:$$B
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 1 . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$B
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 1 . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
My DB doesn't have
, so I assume it's a mistake. What's the best move for black?
$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
This is what I played, to steal the eye, but now I don't want to take gote to keep that stone alive.
$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 3 O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 3 O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
You think 1 is sente but 3 is gote?
Re: pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:26 pm
by Abyssinica
Whoops, I got convinced too.
Re: pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:29 pm
by emeraldemon
Thanks ez4u, I was only thinking of connecting directly. Do you think that with your
it is a good result for black? Is there a better move?
Re: pincer mistake?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:45 pm
by ez4u
emeraldemon wrote:Thanks ez4u, I was only thinking of connecting directly. Do you think that with your
it is a good result for black? Is there a better move?
This is a good result and is the standard explanation for why White can't descend immediately at 8 in your original diagram. Your decision to slide into the corner was good.
