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5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:40 pm
by Kirby
Does anyone know anything about either of the following?
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My natural instinct is to move out, but black easily makes territory on top, and I feel awkward with my white stones. For example:
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Just doesn't feel right.
Thoughts?
Re: 5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:03 pm
by Abyssinica
I think Batt mentioned this in his journey through go series?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwGtuGN ... 4&index=49
2nd game
Re: 5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:23 pm
by Uberdude
In the second I would expect Black to cut for 7. So playing 4 at q16 is one way to avoid that.
Re: 5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:40 am
by Shaddy
1st - tenuki and if he plays another move, it's worse than any enclosure. 2nd - either push out and make empty triangle or bump his stone and jump out, both are ok
Re: 5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:26 am
by Uberdude
The 2nd one is covered in Lee Chang-ho's Korean book 'How to handle hamete'. It's quite a fun book, with maybe 60 hamete showing falling for and refuting them. It's also got this similar one which Matthew Macfadyen used against me once!
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Re: 5-4 Point: Are these trick plays?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:30 am
by Kirby
Thanks, everyone. And thanks for the book reference, Uberdude. As it turns out, I already own that book.
I guess it shows how much I need to study the go books I already have :-p