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Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:36 am
by Joelnelsonb
I'm wondering how different people pronounce the Japanese jargon. I ask because I've always pronounced them the way I hear native Japanese speakers say them but in a lot of videos such as Nick Sibicky's and such, people say them more accodring to the way they look in English which can be quite different. This is a list of how I pronounce some of the more common terms.

Atari: Uh-tari (This would be the only one that I pronounce the American way as the Japs appear to say "Otta-re")

Tesuji: Tess-uh-gee (instead of teh-sue-gee)

Tsumego: Sue-meh-go

Dame: Dah-may

Hane: Hon-aye (aye pronounced like a capital A)

Aji: Ah-gee

Sente: sent-aye

Gote: Go-tay

Byo-Yomi: Buy-oh-yo-me

Seki: Seck-eee (Like capital E)

Joseki: Joe-seck-eee

Miai: Me-eye

Moyo: Moy-oh

Nobi: No-bee

Tenuki: Ten-ooo-key

and of course, the game of Go I pronounce the game of Gah (with a soft O) :D

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:15 am
by dfan
Marcel Grünauer wrote:Native German speakers have an advantage here because the Japanese pronounciation pretty much matches how the word would be pronounced were it a German word.

Except for "ei", such as in "keima" or "Go Seigen", which always messes me up.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:14 am
by Bill Spight

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:42 pm
by Go_Japan
I tried an experiment to help you with your question. I wrote all the words in Japanese and put them into Google translate. There is a "pronunciation" button on the bottom when you put something into Google Translate (little speaker icon). The pronunciation is surprisingly good! So, feel free to copy and past the words below into google translate and getting a good pronunciation.

I am also sharing this link to the Google Translate Page https://goo.gl/g4xKM0 that should give you all the words that you asked for (in the same order, so you know which words are which). You can simply delete the words you are not interested in or copy and paste into a new window for pronunciation practice. Just be sure you select Japanese language in case Google thinks you are typing Chinese. The pronunciation will be different in Chinese.

Edit: I thought I would add a couple of pointers too. On some words, you will extend the 'Oh' sound it is like a double 'ooh'. For example, Byo-yomi is actually written, byo-o-yo-mi in Japanese characters. You don't say Byo then oh. You just extend the Oh sound slightly. When you listen to the pronunciation on the google, you should be able to hear it. Other words you get that same issue are Jouseki and Moyou.

Copy of the words in the same order you listed them:
アタリ
手筋
詰碁
ダメ
ハネ

先手
後手
秒読み
セキ
定石
見合い
模様
ノビ
手抜き

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:58 am
by Joelnelsonb
Fascinating! Thank you very much! and Thank you for the link, Bill.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:02 am
by Krama
I don't get it, in my language you just pronounce it the way it is written and you get it in the first try.

I just checked all those words in japanese (google translate can pronounce words) and it's exactly the same as I pronounce it.

English is really weird.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:11 am
by DrStraw
Krama wrote:English is really weird.


How do you pronouce the combination "ough" :)

Thorough, Through, Bough, Tough, Cough, Thought.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:47 am
by John Fairbairn
Thorough, Through, Bough, Tough, Cough, Thought.


Don't forget Though and Lough!

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:05 am
by Fedya
Hiccough.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:56 pm
by joellercoaster
Loughborough.

"Luffbra"

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:04 pm
by Bill Spight
Doughnut (DUFF'NUT)

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:55 pm
by EdLee

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:15 pm
by Bonobo
Go_Japan wrote:[..] I wrote all the words in Japanese and put them into Google translate [..] "pronunciation" button [..] sharing this link to the Google Translate Page https://goo.gl/g4xKM0 [..] (in the same order, so you know which words are which) [..]
This is AWESOME, thank you!

Three hints:

  • If you put periods after each word, the voice will always pause shortly at this point, and the words seem to be spoken “isolated”, like in vocabulary training; without the periods it is way too fast (for me), and it sounds (again: for me) a little bit as if the voice is speaking a sentence.

  • If you click the speaker icon, the voice begins talking.
    If you click it again, it stops.
    If you click on the speaker a third time, it will speak again, but this time more slowly :-)

  • If you click on the little star icon, you can add this to your Google Docs phrasebook.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:08 pm
by Go_Japan
Bonobo wrote:This is AWESOME, thank you!


Glad you like it. I actually got a good giggle out of the girl reading it really fast. I listened over and over again and made my Japanese wife listen too, though sadly, she didn't find it amusing.

Re: Pronunciation of Japanese terms

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:54 am
by Krama
DrStraw wrote:
Krama wrote:English is really weird.


How do you pronouce the combination "ough" :)

Thorough, Through, Bough, Tough, Cough, Thought.


Do you mean in English or?

Well in my own language easily, since in slavic languages you just read as your write.

It's hard to explain it to native English speakers since English is little bit silly.