Life In 19x19

Is 69 unreasonable because white was able to push above and cut later?

Are 163 to 167 unreasonable because of possibility of S8?

Please ignore my 241 'misclick' that could have lost me the game.

Besides these points are there other moves I could improve upon?

Thanks in advanced for any comments.

Hi pragmatic,

Let's think about this move for a moment.
Maybe you have seen the following (common) sequence:

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[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 3 . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ --------------------[/go]

Was this (partly) why you played ?

Hi pragmatic,

While you're pondering the question,
notice that your lower left corner is not the same situation as the above common sequence.
Rather, it's like this:

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[go]$$B Tenuki
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ --------------------[/go]

Notice also that (in post 2) is a good point for White.
Given these, can you think of another idea for here ?

EdLee wrote:Hi pragmatic,

Let's think about this move for a moment.
Maybe you have seen the following (common) sequence:

$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 3 . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ --------------------

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[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 3 . O . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ --------------------[/go]

Was this (partly) why you played ?

Hi EdLee,

Yea, I pondered about using a double approach instead but wasn't too familiar with its continuation. I thought maybe white could choose which side to give me in that case and could destroy the other side, but I might have over worried.

Thanks for bringing this up. I shall study the double approach continuations a bit from page 137 in The 21st Century Dictionary of Basic Joseki Volume Two.

pragmaticleas wrote:Yea, I pondered about using a double approach instead but wasn't too familiar with its continuation. I thought maybe white could choose which side to give me in that case and could destroy the other side, but I might have over worried.

I see; good, so you considered it but rejected it.
That's OK. Next time, try a double approach.

Hi pragmatic,

Did you consider any other points ? Did you consider any other points ? Did you consider any other points ? Your shape is very thin; how much of the fighting did you read ?

W has to read how to cut and all the subsequent fighting.

Nice, big feeling.

Good fighting spirit; did you consider other moves ?

Hi pragmatic,

Did you read other options ? Why ? What was your reading here ?

Why ? What was your reading here ? What's wrong with the hane ?

EdLee wrote:Hi pragmatic,

Did you consider any other points ?

Did you consider J3 ?

Hmm... good point, then white would have to get another eye in the center while I attack him/her to get some sort of profit/influence.

EdLee wrote::b19: Did you consider any other points ?

Did you consider F14 ?

I did, but I didn't want to let white get profit by playing F16 etc. while I don't have some sort of eye space while white D12 has room downward for some sort of extension.

EdLee wrote::b27: Did you consider any other points ?

Did you consider D9 ?

I considered moves like M4 to break the ladder, but thought it would be a hassle to always keep the ladder in check. I did not consider D9; seems like it's also useful for changing the direction of the ladder while providing some support to the framework.

EdLee wrote::b31: Your shape is very thin; how much of the fighting did you read ?

Not much to be honest. It was kind of a move on instinct during the game.

EdLee wrote::b49: Good fighting spirit; did you consider other moves ?

Did you read N11 ?

I considered a kosumi at N12 after making the move. The game was my first one on IGS and has a new time setting which I am not used to, so some of my moves may seems a bit rushed. N11 is interesting, I would have been too afraid of being cut before if I played this kind of move, but I guess it can be a good move sometimes now you mentioned it.

EdLee wrote:Hi pragmatic,

Did you read other options ?

Did you read N13 ?

I might have, but at that moment I wanted something kind of forcing, but I guess if W Q14, I could have B Q13 after your suggested move of N13?

EdLee wrote: Why ? What was your reading here ?

Fear of getting cut into two groups.

EdLee wrote: Why ? What was your reading here ? What's wrong with the hane ?

I wanted to cut at B O10, W P10, B P9, but was afraid of the white stone at M10 atari my the 4/5 stones in the middle and cut my center group into two.