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Structured list of title holders
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:10 am
by hyperpape
This is something I've wondered about off and on. Is there any publicly available list of title holders available? By structured, I mean json, xml, csv or somesuch. Actually, even well structured HTML would not be so bad, since it's not too hard to parse into one of the other formats.
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:06 am
by gowan
DO you want current title holders or a complete historical list? Some of the information must be on Sensei's Library.
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 12:02 am
by tsuboniwa
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:01 am
by aeb
hyperpape wrote:This is something I've wondered about off and on. Is there any publicly available list of title holders available?
The software I use to maintain my SGF collection includes lists of title holders,
and a database of player ranks, so that the BR and WR fields can be checked.
Can you use something like
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# the first five are really the ACOM Cup
agontable = [
["O Rissei", "1994-09-17", "1995-09-09"], # 1
["Kato Masao", "1995-09-09", "1997-09-28"], # 2-3
["Yoda Norimoto", "1997-09-28", "1998-09-26"], # 4
["Kobayashi Satoru", "1998-09-26", "1999-10-10"], # 5
["Kobayashi Koichi", "1999-10-10", "2000-10-08"], # 6
["Cho Sonjin", "2000-10-08", "2002-10-13"], # 7-8
["Cho Chikun", "2002-10-13", "2003-10-13"], # 9
["Kato Masao", "2003-10-13", "2004-10-09"], # 10
["Hane Naoki", "2004-10-09", "2005-10-08"], # 11
["Iyama Yuta", "2005-10-08", "2006-10-07"], # 12
["Cho U", "2006-10-07", "2009-10-17"], # 13-15
["Hane Naoki", "2009-10-17", "2010-10-02"], # 16
["Yamashita Keigo", "2010-10-02", "2011-10-01"], # 17
["Iyama Yuta", "2011-10-01", "2012-10-06"], # 18
["Cho U", "2012-10-06", "2013-10-05"], # 19
["Murakawa Daisuke", "2013-10-05", "2014-10-18"], # 20
["Iyama Yuta", "2014-10-18", "2015-99-99"], # 21-22
]
...
?
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:57 pm
by hyperpape
gowan wrote:DO you want current title holders or a complete historical list? Some of the information must be on Sensei's Library.
Historical. Senseis would be of some value, though it's quite limited for some events, and it would be a little bit of a pain to process.
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:59 pm
by hyperpape
aeb: what database is that? Also, I'm guessing the dates are when the player gained then lost the title?
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:07 pm
by gamesorry
hyperpape wrote:gowan wrote:DO you want current title holders or a complete historical list? Some of the information must be on Sensei's Library.
Historical. Senseis would be of some value, though it's quite limited for some events, and it would be a little bit of a pain to process.
At least the history of big titles are listed on
http://senseis.xmp.net/?BigTitle
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:04 am
by aeb
hyperpape wrote:aeb: what database is that? Also, I'm guessing the dates are when the player gained then lost the title?
Yes. It is a fragment of supporting software that intends to automatically check data like
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2014-10-08 33rd Female Honinbo Title 1 227 B+R Fujisawa Rina (2p, Aizu Cup) Mukai Chiaki (5p, Female Honinbo) FHon-2014-1.sgf
(If one collects games from the net, then all conceivable mistakes occur. Wrong date, wrong event, wrong players, wrong moves. That means that to get a somewhat reliable collection, everything has to be checked. Player ranks are in
http://www.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/misc/progression.html, player titles in the above-mentioned tables.)
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:32 pm
by hyperpape
Example of where Senseis falls a little short:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?Siptan. No years, non-standard format.
I did a little work filling in gaps in some of the senseis articles a few years ago.
Re: Structured list of title holders
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:19 pm
by Magicwand