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CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:36 pm
by adnb
So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong. Is this happening for other people, or is it a known issue?
I've uploaded the sgf to
http://eidogo.com/#1LoUBP0wGSeems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:33 pm
by vier
adnb wrote:So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong.
Seems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.
Your file says HA[2]. OK, so it is a handicap game. More or less standard is to tell where the handicap stones are using AB[pd][dp]. However, your SGF does not do this, but lets B play a handicap stone (W passes) and another handicap stone.
The checker sgfcheck warns
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sgfcheck 1LoUBP0wG.sgf: moves 1 and 2 were both played by B
Unfortunately, SGF is not really standard. The old standard is obsolete and nobody maintains the SGF standard today. Lots of variations are common, and it is difficult for software to accommodate all possible variations. (But for each of these minor variations, adding support is very easy, just a few lines of code.)
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:06 am
by Amtiskaw
It's quite clear in SGF that things like Black making 2 moves in a row are allowed; any decent SGF editor should be able to handle this. (I'm speaking as someone who's made their own lame but functional SGF editor...) So this is just an oversight by Unbalance. Admittedly, servers like KGS should put handicaps as AB properties, not B properties.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:27 am
by Rémi
adnb wrote:So I played a handicap game on KGS and downloaded it to analyze in CrazyStone. It seems to get the first few moves completely wrong. Is this happening for other people, or is it a known issue?
I've uploaded the sgf to
http://eidogo.com/#1LoUBP0wGSeems like a pretty big flaw if it's standard.
Thanks for reporting this problem. Unbalance told me that they released a new version today that fixes it. The new version also makes analysis more convenient, and has an upgraded engine.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:42 am
by Monadology
Rémi wrote:
Thanks for reporting this problem. Unbalance told me that they released a new version today that fixes it. The new version also makes analysis more convenient, and has an upgraded engine.
Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?
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Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:49 am
by Cassandra
Monadology wrote:Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?
You can use the download link again that you received after buying CS.
The (new) installation program will upgrade version 1.00 to version 1.01.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:50 pm
by Monadology
Cassandra wrote:Monadology wrote:Don't you know if this new version will be a free update for those who purchased it already?
You can use the download link again that you received after buying CS.
The (new) installation program will upgrade version 1.00 to version 1.01.
Thanks. Since I got it via steam I can't do that, but hopefully it will get updated in steam too.
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Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:07 pm
by OtakuViking
Could you send the DL link? I looked through my email and I have the receit and stuff, but not the DL link for some reason x.x
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:44 pm
by Amtiskaw
I believe the address is:
(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:38 am
by OtakuViking
Amtiskaw wrote:I believe the address is:
(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE
Thanks, that worked. But download speed is like 5 KB/s lol
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:33 am
by adnb
Thanks. Doesn't seem that there are been any updates on the steam version, but hopefully soon.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:23 pm
by macelee
OtakuViking wrote:Amtiskaw wrote:I believe the address is:
(https) coupon.unbalance.co.jp/csdl/dl.php?id=YOUR_SERIAL_NUMBER_HERE
Thanks, that worked. But download speed is like 5 KB/s lol
Same here. Extremely slow download.
Re: CrazyStone loading handicap sgfs incorrectly?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:53 pm
by Monadology
For those who got it on Steam, it looks the the update just came down the pipes.