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English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:57 am
by Bonobo
English version of Tencho-no-Igo 6 (aka “Zen(ith) Go 6”, 7d) by Hideki Kato was released today, 2016-10-26 (download, Windows): https://book.mynavi.jp/tencho6_en/For purchase options see these pages:
https://book.mynavi.jp/ec/products/detail/id=62646https://www.dlmarket.jp/products/detail ... _id=425780
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:55 am
by oren
I've had "Zenith Go 6" since August. I wonder if they updated something else and didn't update the name.
This was the one from June release.
https://book.mynavi.jp/ec/products/detail/id=52205edit...
Japanese site still is 6/3, so no change. Just the addition of an English site happened today.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:15 am
by Bonobo
Uhm x__x
Well, I had read a post about it today in the German DGoB forum where Ingo wrote that he’d received a mail from Hideki Kato, saying that it was released today, and the first linked page also says “Release:October 26 , 2016” [sic!] …
Is it perhaps about the download version then? Did you purchase a boxed version perhaps, back in August?
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And English version really? I mean … completely in English?
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Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:56 am
by Cassandra
Bonobo wrote:<edit>
And English version really? I mean … completely in English?
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No.
The June release is the original
Japanese version.
Also available at amazon.co.jp, with remark "Release Date: June 3, 2016"
+ + + + + + + +
There was also an English version of Zen 4, but non of Zen 5.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:34 pm
by oren
Yes, I've been running the software in English since August. This publication date is the web page which is still interesting.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:09 pm
by Bonobo

contradicting messages confuse me even more than I already am

What I had heard abt the older version was that, while the most important functions/infos were available in EN, it was not
completely translated, i.e. some windows or panels allegedly still were in Japanese <shrug>
Anyway, I asked Ingo to inquire with Hideki Kato, hopefully he will do …
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:06 am
by Gomoto
I am not able to make the purchase. (Cant read Japanese, I managed to log in, but I am not able to process any of the purchase options, a english user interface is really needed)
Are there any other options to buy Zenith 6 English?
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:26 am
by pookpooi
Marcel Grünauer wrote:Is Zenith Go 6 the same as Deep Zen Go that will play Cho Chikun? If not, do both use deep learning?
Zenith Go 6 only support CPU while DeepZenGo will use both CPU and GPU, also DeepZenGo has been trained for a longer time, it's a newer version.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:27 am
by Gomoto
(I was able to buy Zenith Go 6 with the paypal option.)
No, it is not the same engine version
Zenith Go 6 is using the Zen Version 11.4 Engine.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:30 am
by Krama
I have had the english zen go 6 (11.4) since 1st of july :O
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:30 am
by ESMP
Just in case anyone is interested, I just purchased Zenith Go 6 and can confirm that it works in my Mac via Crossover.
Cheers!
- Eduardo
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:53 pm
by kdbaby1412
So, is this Zen bot strength depends on how strong your computer is? Or its strength will be the same on all computer, just move/time is different depended on your CPU & GPU?
I have Alienware X51 with Intel Core i7-4790 3.60 GHz Quad-core Processor (8MB Cache, up to 4.0GHz) + NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 Graphics with 4GB DDR3. How can I optimize the performance on my computer? I play with it at 7 dan and it takes about ~15-20 sec/move. But I'm not sure if it's strength are at 7dan lvl.
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:44 am
by Waylon
GPU doesn't matter for the commercial version. I suppose, the dan-levels have been calibrated by the number of playouts, so Zen should have the same strenght on every PC.
On a fast computer like yours, the program plays stronger if you select "Specify Time" in the "New Game" dialog box. Give the bot 120 sec/move, and it should play strong enough for every amateur player.

Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:58 pm
by kdbaby1412
Waylon wrote:GPU doesn't matter for the commercial version. I suppose, the dan-levels have been calibrated by the number of playouts, so Zen should have the same strenght on every PC.
On a fast computer like yours, the program plays stronger if you select "Specify Time" in the "New Game" dialog box. Give the bot 120 sec/move, and it should play strong enough for every amateur player.

Lol. How come do specific time will make it stronger?
Re: English version of Zen(ith) Go 6 (dâload, Windows, 7d)
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:02 pm
by pookpooi
kdbaby1412 wrote:Lol. How come do specific time will make it stronger?
Only if you give more time to Zen than the time Zen need to think in rank based mode, forcing Zen to simulated more than it need, making it stronger. If you give less time to Zen then Zen is weaker.