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dutchie's journal
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:14 pm
by dutchie
Let's write some stuff down and go on the record to try and make some actual progress. I think reasonable goals would be (KGS) SDK by June, 5k by end of the year (maybe? I finally got rid of my ? at 15k this evening). We'll see how this goes, as I'm not sure exactly how busy my schedule is going to be, but I think for I'll commit to two slow-ish (at least 10min) games on KGS a week, along with 5 tsumego a day (initially from the
Cho encyclopedia). I'll do my best to review and post one of those up here as proof, and I'll be using
Beeminder to self-motivate those tsumego.
In addition, I'll finish reading through the Janice Kim Learn to Play Go series (currently halfway through Vol III) and have another attempt at Kageyama (having previously read about a chapter and a half before it fell by the wayside). No timetable for these books, just going at my own pace until I'm done.
So does this seem reasonable? Any recommendations on my plan, for different or additional books or anything else at all?
Looking forward to getting stronger!
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:32 am
by kirjoittaessani
Welcome!
I cannot really tell you if what you're planning is reasonable since I'm not stronger than you are, and I've only just begun studying (rather than just playing) go.
I'm sure others will advise you there. Still, I wish you good luck, and I hope to be able to contribute a comment or two to your journal.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:28 pm
by dutchie
I have played the first of two games for this week! Here it is, with some comments by me:
https://lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8142
This took me up to 14k, so I'm off to a good start already

Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:42 pm
by dfan
Your opening was pretty reasonable (especially for 15k!) and I'm not surprised that you won.
I don't know what your usual games look like, but if they usually look like this (both sides constructing gigantic moyos that the other side is afraid to invade) then I would suggest trying to play in a bit more of a "distributed" manner, e.g.,

at C6, and seeing what happens. You will learn a lot from the fighting that ensues. A lot of double-digit kyu games look like this and I think the earlier you start to leave it behind, the better.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:51 pm
by dutchie
Thanks for taking a look.
dfan wrote:You will learn a lot from the fighting that ensues.
I don't feel that confident fighting at the moment, which is why I try to have mostly peaceful games. I suspect this approach is counter-productive, and I should try to play a more combative style to get more practice.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:12 pm
by dutchie
I played my second game of the week just now. It was an unranked 9-stone handicap vs a 5k. Here's the game, briefly reviewed by me! (I thought I removed all the game chat, but it seems I didn't. Oh well)
https://lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8160
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:08 pm
by EdLee
Hi dutchie,
Some ideas.
(;CA[utf-8]OT[5x20 byo-yomi]GM[1]FF[4]ST[2]AB[dd][jd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][jp][pp]
AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]RU[Japanese]DT[2017-01-08]PC[KGS]PB[dutchie]BR[14k]WR[5k]KM[0.5]
HA[9]TM[1200]RE[B+3.5]MULTIGOGM[0]
;W[nq]WL[1188.93]
(;B[qn]BL[1191.15]C[Because of the high 9-stone handicap,
B has multiple ways. See also var.]
;W[fq]WL[1168.69]
(;B[jr]BL[1176.65]C[You think to split W.
But W is ALREADY split, because of your mid-star point stone.
See vars.]
;W[pr]WL[1156.63];B[qq]BL[1162.63];W[kq]WL[1151.81];B[jq]BL[1156.48]C[This exchange is bad for W, good for B.
This peeps helps B.]
;W[qr]WL[1145.07]
(;B[cn]BL[1121.9]C[See var.];W[dq]WL[1138.19];B[cq]BL[1117.49]C[This hane is very big, very important.
It has to do with the life of W.]
;W[er]WL[1129.06]
(;B[gc]BL[1086.75]C[This tenuki is not good. A big miss. See var.];W[cr]WL[1123.39]
C[W gets this Shared, Vital point, FIRST.
Big miss for B. Big gain for W.];B[bq]
BL[1078.57];W[ep]WL[1117.7];B[do]BL[1020.41];W[ko]WL[1072.7];B[jo]BL[964.605];W[ln]
WL[1020.08]
(;B[no]BL[906.285]C[See var.];W[jn]WL[1014.21]C[Again, you missed a Shared, Vital point.
This should be B's ( or, you could've jumped, see var. )
But you let W get this Shared, Vital point FIRST.
Big miss for B. Big gain for W.]
(;B[go]BL[830.684]C[Wrong shape. See var.];W[hp]WL[1002.55]
(;B[eo]BL[787.407]C[Wrong connect. See var.];W[ho]WL[991.001]C[Big loss to lose the 4 stones for No Good reason.
See how the series of mistakes led to this loss.
See moves 4, 14, 22, 24, 26.]
;B[gn]BL[779.155]C[Did you consider the hane.];W[hr]WL[979.383]
(;B[im]BL[751.488]C[See also var.];W[in]WL[972.318];B[hn]BL[720.634];W[qj]WL[957.597]
;B[qi]BL[702.241];W[pi]WL[952.394]
(;B[qh]BL[689.714]C[See also vars.];W[pk]WL[946.753];B[oj]BL[686.154];W[ql]WL[944.429]
;B[ok]BL[673.609];W[ol]WL[940.951]
(;B[mm]BL[624.411]C[See var.];W[ml]WL[928.622];B[pm]BL[599.942];W[pl]WL[921.804]
(;B[om]BL[589.137]C[Big miss. See var.];W[nl]WL[914.463]
(;B[mj]BL[550.91]C[Big miss. See var.];W[lm]WL[901.941]C[Again ( the 3rd time now ),
you missed a Shared, Vital point.
You let W get it first.]
(;B[mn]BL[540.276]C[See var.];W[mp]WL[894.966]
(;B[np]BL[522.463]C[Slow and awkward. See var.];W[mo]WL[889.894]
(;B[nm]BL[502.225]C[See var.];W[lj]WL[842.319]
(;B[mi]BL[471.247]C[Did you consider the hane, first.
See var.];W[ph]WL[826.393]
(;B[pg]BL[454.764]C[See var.];W[oh]WL[820.387]
(;B[og]BL[446.694]C[See var.];W[nh]WL[815.936]
(;B[mg]BL[427.298]C[See var.];W[nj]WL[808.208];B[ni]BL[420.238];W[mh]WL[803.737]
;B[lh]BL[403.665];W[pc]WL[797.144]LB[rj:a]C[Notice if you atari (a) now, W will ignore it.
But W(a) will become a big end-game move for W.
See the difference if you missed a Temporary sente move.]
;B[oc]BL[360.852];W[od]WL[793.612]
(;B[nd]BL[353.067]C[See var.];W[oe]WL[790.789];B[nc]BL[347.229];W[qd]WL[787.424]
(;B[ne]BL[323.15]C[Confused or misread.
Did you read the ladder. See var.];W[pe]
WL[776.459]
(;B[kl]BL[277.364]C[Not sure what you're doing here.
See var.];W[jl]WL[760.094]
;B[jm]BL[262.367];W[km]WL[753.203];B[kk]BL[258.829];W[il]WL[747.749];B[hm]BL[252.263]
;W[ll]WL[744.428];B[hk]BL[240.827];W[kj]WL[741.271];B[jk]BL[237.497];W[ji]WL[737.805]
;B[li]BL[208.283];W[ki]WL[731.817];B[lk]BL[199.054];W[nk]WL[723.012];B[oi]BL[187.984]
;W[mk]WL[721.244]
(;B[ik]BL[157.862]C[This is a Pass. See var.];W[qg]WL[690.648]
(;B[jg]BL[62.176]C[See var.];W[ri]WL[677.892];B[ng]BL[58.439];W[cj]WL[665.823]
(;B[di]BL[30.953]C[See var.];W[ck]WL[652.773]
(;B[dk]BL[24.027]C[Wrong idea. Too nice for W. See var.];W[cl]WL[649.905]
(;B[dl]BL[9.236]C[See var.];W[cm]WL[645.948]
(;B[dm]BL[3.136]C[Seems the whole time you were Not thinking to kill W.
See var.]
;W[bn]WL[644.002];OB[5]B[bo]BL[20];W[bh]WL[642.42]C[With this keima, W is out and alive.
Missing this kill is worth this game
( plus all the fundamentals mistakes prior to here ).
Review you local moves here. 100, 102, 104, 106.
The whole time you were not out for blood.
Too soft, too easy on W.
End of notes.]
;OB[5]B[ch]BL[20];W[bg]WL[638.676];OB[5]B[cf]BL[20];W[dc]WL[634.128];OB[5]B[cc]
BL[20];W[ed]WL[632.414];OB[5]B[ec]BL[20];W[de]WL[626.717];OB[5]B[cd]BL[20];W[fc]
WL[624.079];OB[5]B[db]BL[20];W[eb]WL[619.965];OB[5]B[ee]BL[20];W[fd]WL[617.285]
;OB[5]B[df]BL[20];W[fe]WL[614.554];OB[5]B[ef]BL[20];W[gb]WL[611.192];OB[5]B[hc]
BL[20];W[hb]WL[609.076];OB[5]B[ib]BL[20];W[dc]WL[603.358];OB[4]B[ii]BL[20];W[cb]
WL[600.313];OB[4]B[bb]BL[20];W[da]WL[597.617];OB[4]B[bc]BL[20];W[ic]WL[595.296]
;OB[4]B[id]BL[20];W[hd]WL[594.022];OB[4]B[jc]BL[20];W[gg]WL[593.11]
(;OB[4]B[fg]BL[20];W[hh]WL[587.452]
(;OB[4]B[ih]BL[20];W[fh]WL[584];OB[4]B[eh]BL[20];W[fi]WL[582.078];OB[4]B[fj]BL[20]
;W[gj]WL[580.252];OB[4]B[gk]BL[20];W[ff]WL[577.424];OB[4]B[eg]BL[20];W[rg]WL[573.927]
;OB[4]B[hf]BL[20];W[gf]WL[569.177];OB[4]B[bf]BL[20];W[am]WL[564.894];OB[4]B[br]
BL[20];W[rh]WL[561.907];OB[4]B[rm]BL[20];W[oq]WL[558.964];OB[4]B[op]BL[20];W[rr]
WL[550.648];OB[4]B[rq]BL[20];W[rl]WL[547.361];OB[4]B[of]BL[20];W[so]WL[538.93]
(;OB[4]B[ro]BL[20];W[sq]WL[532.601];OB[4]B[rp]BL[20];W[sp]WL[530.751];OB[4]B[sn]
BL[20];W[sr]WL[529.983];OB[4]B[pb]BL[20];W[qb]WL[528.419];OB[4]B[nb]BL[20];W[pa]
WL[525.995];OB[4]B[ob]BL[20];W[he]WL[524.14];OB[4]B[ie]BL[20];W[sl]WL[522.084];OB[4]
B[qm]BL[20];W[gp]WL[519.806];OB[4]B[pf]BL[20];W[qf]WL[517.033];OB[4]B[hg]BL[20]
;W[ej]WL[498.003];OB[4]B[fk]BL[20];W[ei]WL[495.965];OB[4]B[gi]BL[20];W[gh]WL[494.615]
;OB[4]B[hi]BL[20];W[ek]WL[493.904];OB[4]B[el]BL[20];W[gd]WL[491.986];OB[4]B[ic]
BL[20];W[bs]WL[487.953];OB[4]B[ba]BL[20];W[ha]WL[483.933];OB[4]B[ia]BL[20];W[cg]
WL[480.354];OB[4]B[dg]BL[20];W[ci]WL[478.507];OB[4]B[dh]BL[20];W[fp]WL[463.727]
;OB[4]B[oa]BL[20];W[qa]WL[461.537];OB[4]B[fo]BL[20];W[ai]WL[456.548];OB[4]B[sm]
BL[20];W[ag]WL[453.903];OB[4]B[af]BL[20];W[pq]WL[434.923];OB[4]B[ao]BL[20];W[ca]
WL[412.106];OB[4]B[an]BL[20];W[bm]WL[380.819];OB[4]B[ar]BL[20];W[cs]WL[366.91];OB[3]
B[]BL[20];W[]WL[366.908]TB[bd][jl][aa][ja][ka][la][ma][na][ab][jb][kb][lb][mb][ac]
[kc][lc][mc][ad][kd][ld][md][ae][be][ce][de][je][ke][le][me][if][jf][kf][lf][mf]
[nf][ig][kg][lg][jh][kh][mh][nh][oh][ph][ji][ki][pi][gj][hj][ij][kj][lj][fl][gl]
[hl][il][em][fm][gm][dn][en][fn][nn][on][pn][rn][co][oo][po][qo][ap][bp][cp][qp]
[aq]TW[ps][qe][rs][ss][ea][fa][ga][ra][sa][db][fb][rb][sb][ec][qc][rc][sc][pd][rd]
[sd][qs][ge][re][se][rf][sf][sg][ah][sh][bi][si][aj][bj][rj][sj][ak][bk][qk][rk]
[sk][al][bl][kn][io][jo][lo][ip][jp][kp][lp][eq][gq][hq][iq][jq][lq][mq][dr][fr]
[jr][gr][ir][kr][lr][mr][nr][or][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os])
(;B[sm];W[sq];B[rp];W[sp];B[ro];W[sn];B[rn];W[sr];B[sl];W[sk])
(;B[sn];W[rn];B[sm];W[qm];B[ro];W[sp];B[sq];W[sl];B[rn]))
(;B[hi];W[ih];B[jh]))
(;B[gi]))
(;B[ci]C[Still, this turn.];W[bn];B[bo];W[dn];B[co];W[bi];B[bh];W[aj];B[bm];W[bl]
;B[an]C[Still dead for W.]))
(;B[ci]C[Still this turn. You must reduce W's eyespace.
See continuation.];W[bi]
;B[bh];W[aj];B[bm]C[Still dead shape for W.]))
(;B[ci]C[Turn. Ask yourself, if you were W, can you make life here.
See continuation.]
;W[bi];B[bh];W[aj];B[bl]C[W has one gote eye, so far.
W cannot make a second eye here.
Locally, W is dead.]))
(;B[ci]C[Hane. Play the most severe moves.
Make W suffer as best you can.]))
(;B[rg];W[qf];B[cd]C[Please count.]))
(;B[cd]C[Again, a rough count of the whole board situation.
How many points for W.
How many points for B.]))
(;B[cd]C[Do a rough count of the whole board situation.
How many points for W.
How many points for B.]))
(;B[pe];W[pf];B[qe];W[qf];B[re];W[of];B[qc]))
(;B[qd]C[Severe on both W stones.]))
(;B[rj];W[qk]))
(;B[rj];W[qk]))
(;B[rj]C[This atari will not be sente forever.
You must do it while you know W will reply.]
;W[qk]))
(;B[li]C[First feeling is hane. Then you read to see if this works.
If it fails, then don't hane.
But if it works, do it.]))
(;B[oq]C[Before your final move to live,
take advantage here while you can, first.
Later, after your group is alive,
these moves may not be sente any more.]
;W[or]))
(;B[rr]C[See continuation.];W[rp];B[rq];W[qo];B[rn];W[po];B[oo]C[A fight for the life of your corner,
because you missed the shared vital point to get out first.]))
(;B[rr]C[Take care of your corner ASAP.]))
(;B[lm]C[Get your corner group out, first.
See continuation.];W[oi];B[rj];W[qk]
;B[nj];W[ni];B[mj];W[li];B[mi];W[mh];B[lh];W[nh];B[lj];W[ki];B[kj]C[Fight.]))
(;B[lm]C[Basic broken shape for W.]))
(;B[rj]C[Make W into a dumpling shape, first.
See also move 14 var for W dumpling shape.]
;W[qk]))
(;B[ri]C[This drop is much more severe on the 3rd-line W stone.
See also var.])
(;B[pk]C[This extend helps your Lower corner.]))
(;B[hn]C[Turn. No cuts for B.]))
(;B[ho]C[See continuation.];W[io];B[ip];W[in];B[gp];W[hq];B[gq];W[hr];B[gr];W[is]
;B[gs];W[js];B[kr];W[lq];B[ir];W[hs];B[ks]))
(;B[in]C[You can resist here by hane.
See continuations.]
(;W[io]C[W cannot cut. See continuation. See also var.];B[jm]C[You get this free, good atari first.
See continuation.]
;W[kn];B[ho]C[Both the net and the ladder work here.];W[ip];B[hp];W[iq];B[hr])
(;W[im]C[W may try this double hane, as a bluff.
See continuation.];B[jm];W[kn]
;B[hn]C[No problem for B.])))
(;B[jm]C[Basic shape. Get ahead of W.
See continuation.];W[jn];B[in];W[kn];B[im]
C[B can happily protect the outside cut.
There is no cut inside. See continuation.]
;W[io];B[ho];W[ip];B[hp];W[iq];B[hr]C[You can net. The ladder here is also good for you.
Which means there is no cut for W.]))
(;B[dr];W[eq];B[cr]C[Make W into a dumpling shape first ( inefficient shape ).
Remove W's eyespace.
Gain eyespace for your corner.
Very important.]))
(;B[eq];W[fp];B[dn]C[Again, this kick + jump combo is to make W heavy, first.
Then continue to attack W.
See move 2 var for meaning of heavy here.]))
(;B[oq];W[np];B[lp]C[The kick + pincer combo is even more severe now.
See move 2 var for meaning of heavy here.
See also var.])
(;B[jn]C[Jump high is also an option.]))
(;B[oq];W[np];B[pn]C[Idea is make W heavy, first, then attack.
The mid-star point handi stone is at a good place for this result --
it is ALREADY working as a pincer against W.
Heavy here means it is much more difficult for
W to give up 2 stones instead of his single stone,
which he can treat lightly, as a throw-away if needed.
You see ALL your stones are working nicely with one another.]))
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:02 am
by dutchie
Thanks for having a look, Ed. Nice of you to stop me from feeling too good about myself! At least some of those moves I was considering, but I think I'm still too averse to fighting.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:27 am
by Bill Spight
A couple of comments.
(;GM[1]AP[GOWrite:2.3.46]ST[2]CA[UTF-8]SZ[19]FF[4]FG[259:]HA[9]GN[ ]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+3.50]KM[0.50]AB[jp][pj][dd][jj][jd][dp][pp][dj][pd]DT[2017-01-08]TM[1200]RU[Japanese]PW[Epithany]PM[2]OT[5x20 byo-yomi]PB[dutchie]WR[5k]BR[14k]
;WL[1188.931]W[nq]
;BL[1191.151]C[I'm not really sure what the proper way to play a joseki is when I have this many stones on the board, so I try something normal looking]B[qn]
;WL[1168.688]W[fq]
(
;BL[1176.647]C[K2 keeps white separated.
*** Not a bad idea. See variation.]B[jr]
;WL[1156.63]W[pr]
;BL[1162.625]C[My thinking is that white struggles to form a base with my K2 and K4 stones
*** Good.]B[qq]
;WL[1151.808]W[kq]
;BL[1156.476]B[jq]
;WL[1145.074]W[qr]
(
;BL[1121.897]C[*** See variations.]B[cn]
;WL[1138.195]C[The attachment seems odd to me, but I suppose you have to try all sorts in a 9-stone handicap.
*** Because of the strength of your K file stones, the slide is unattractive.]W[dq]
;BL[1117.495]B[cq]
;WL[1129.061]W[er]
(
;BL[1086.752]C[Maybe I shouldn't tenuki here and make sure I'm properly connected in the lower left.
*** See variation.]B[gc]
;WL[1123.387]W[cr]
(
;BL[1078.57]B[bq]C[Epithany \[5k\]\: How long have you been plaing go?
*** See variation.]
;WL[1117.696]W[ep]C[dutchie \[14k\]\: i started again a couple of weeks ago
Epithany \[5k\]\: OK
Epithany \[5k\]\: Before that?
dutchie \[14k\]\: but i played for a month or two maybe a year back
Epithany \[5k\]\: OK
Epithany \[5k\]\: I have played most days for 27 years]
;BL[1020.406]B[do]C[dutchie \[14k\]\: that's a long time
Epithany \[5k\]\: Indeed!]
;WL[1072.704]W[ko]
(
;BL[964.605]C[I thought for a while about this move. I was also considering the turn at E5 or jumping ahead of white with K6. I decided to stick to my consistent plan of keeping white separated and to do so in the most simplistic solid way I could.
*** See variation.]B[jo]
;WL[1020.078]W[ln]
(
;BL[906.285]C[I'm worried for my stones on the right and try to make some more eyespace for them. Considering how the game ended up, I'm not sure about this decision. The eyespace ended up being important for me not to die, but I suspect it's not necessary at the moment and I should be more concerned about that weird stick thing at K5, especially as it does end up dying.
*** See variation.]B[no]
;WL[1014.214]C[White gets to harrass my stick because I defended my corner group.]W[jn]
(
;BL[830.684]C[The idea behind this move was to connect up and keep white sealed in. In retrospect, it's probably too loose to do either of those jobs well. The hane at J6 is probably a better idea]B[go]
;WL[1002.547]W[hp]
(
;BL[787.407]C[I get to maket the turn I wanted to, but in return my stones get cut off. Not a good move for me
*** See variation.]B[eo]
;WL[991.001]W[ho]
;BL[779.155]B[gn]
;WL[979.383]W[hr]
(
;BL[751.488]C[*** See variations for suggestions.]B[im]
;WL[972.318]W[in]C[Epithany \[5k\]\: You see the plan here now?]
;BL[720.634]B[hn]
;WL[957.597]W[qj]
;BL[702.241]C[*** Good.]B[qi]
;WL[952.394]W[pi]
(
;BL[689.714]C[*** See variation.
The go to move 65.]B[qh]
;WL[946.753]W[pk]
;BL[686.154]B[oj]
;WL[944.429]W[ql]
;BL[673.609]B[ok]
;WL[940.951]W[ol]
;BL[624.411]C[Try to separate white. Is it obvious that I just read the Kageyama chapter on cutting and connecting?]B[mm]
;WL[928.622]W[ml]C[Epithany \[5k\]\: Interesting game now]
;BL[599.942]C[Peep for more eyespace, as I'm nervous of my corner getting surrounded]B[pm]
;WL[921.804]W[pl]
;BL[589.137]B[om]
;WL[914.463]W[nl]
;BL[550.91]C[This was another move that took some thought. I decided to try and help my weakest looking stones]B[mj]
;WL[901.941]W[lm]
;BL[540.276]B[mn]
;WL[894.966]W[mp]
;BL[522.463]B[np]
;WL[889.894]W[mo]
;BL[502.225]C[This didn't seem to be a good exchange for white, allowing me to settle my group and never have to worry about it again until endgame]B[nm]
;WL[842.319]W[lj]
;BL[471.247]B[mi]
;WL[826.393]W[ph]
;BL[454.764]B[pg]
;WL[820.387]W[oh]
;BL[446.694]B[og]
;WL[815.936]W[nh]
;BL[427.298]B[mg]
;WL[808.208]W[nj]
;BL[420.238]C[This was a misread by my opponent.]B[ni]
(
;WL[803.737]C[*** Actually White could have run out or captured the three stones. See variation.]W[mh]
;BL[403.665]B[lh]
;WL[797.144]W[pc]
;BL[360.852]C[*** Good.]B[oc]
;WL[793.612]C[More fighting!]W[od]
(
;BL[353.067]C[*** Strengthens White. See variation.]B[nd]
;WL[790.789]W[oe]
;BL[347.229]B[nc]
;WL[787.424]W[qd]
(
;BL[323.15]C[I gave up my stone because I didn't want anything helping the five stones escape
*** See variation.
The go to move 93.]B[ne]
;WL[776.459]W[pe]
;BL[277.364]B[kl]
;WL[760.094]W[jl]
;BL[262.367]B[jm]
;WL[753.203]W[km]
;BL[258.829]B[kk]
;WL[747.749]W[il]
;BL[252.263]B[hm]
;WL[744.428]W[ll]
;BL[240.827]B[hk]
;WL[741.271]W[kj]
;BL[237.497]B[jk]
;WL[737.805]W[ji]
;BL[208.283]B[li]
;WL[731.817]W[ki]
;BL[199.054]B[lk]
;WL[723.012]W[nk]
;BL[187.984]B[oi]
;WL[721.244]C[I read that it's more important to defend J9 than M13 because I can always take
*** Why defend either? See variation for next.]W[mk]
(
;BL[157.862]B[ik]
;WL[690.648]W[qg]
;BL[62.176]C[Keeping the]B[jg]
;WL[677.892]W[ri]
;BL[58.439]B[ng]
;WL[665.823]W[cj]
;BL[30.953]C[I've had enough of fighting at this point so I just extend. It's probably still correct to hane
*** The hane is good.]B[di]
;WL[652.773]W[ck]
(
;BL[24.027]C[*** See variation.]B[dk]
;WL[649.905]W[cl]
;BL[9.236]B[dl]
;WL[645.948]W[cm]
;BL[3.136]B[dm]
;WL[644.002]W[bn]
;BL[20.0]B[bo]OB[5]
;WL[642.42]W[bh]
(
;BL[20.0]C[*** See variation.]OB[5]B[ch]
;WL[638.676]W[bg]
;BL[20.0]B[cf]OB[5]
;WL[634.128]W[dc]
;BL[20.0]C[*** Good.]OB[5]B[cc]
;WL[632.414]W[ed]
;BL[20.0]B[ec]OB[5]
;WL[626.717]W[de]
;BL[20.0]B[cd]OB[5]
;WL[624.079]W[fc]
;BL[20.0]B[db]OB[5]
;WL[619.965]W[eb]
(
;BL[20.0]C[*** See variation.]OB[5]B[ee]
;WL[617.285]W[fd]
;BL[20.0]B[df]OB[5]
;WL[614.554]W[fe]
;BL[20.0]B[ef]OB[5]
;WL[611.192]W[gb]
;BL[20.0]B[hc]OB[5]
;WL[609.076]W[hb]
(
;BL[20.0]C[*** See variation.
Go to move 153.]OB[5]B[ib]
;WL[603.358]W[dc]
;BL[20.0]C[I have no idea what my ko threats are and time is ticking away. I should probably at least play J5. Maybe also some stuff with M5 then M4? And the new group on the left side.]OB[4]B[ii]
;WL[600.313]W[cb]
;BL[20.0]B[bb]OB[4]
;WL[597.617]W[da]
;BL[20.0]C[I feel like white's got way more of this than he ought to have done. Lots of trouble ensues with that group sneaking down and reducing me on the left centre]OB[4]B[bc]
;WL[595.296]W[ic]
;BL[20.0]B[id]OB[4]
;WL[594.022]W[hd]
;BL[20.0]B[jc]OB[4]
;WL[593.11]W[gg]
(
;BL[20.0]C[I don't know what this is supposed to accomplish. I think a certain amount of time panic is setting in]OB[4]B[fg]
;WL[587.452]W[hh]
(
;BL[20.0]C[I think I'm worried about white connecting to those 4 stones, but I needn't be so concerned to allow him to trample all my territory]OB[4]B[ih]
;WL[584.0]W[fh]
;BL[20.0]B[eh]OB[4]
;WL[582.078]W[fi]
;BL[20.0]B[fj]OB[4]
;WL[580.252]W[gj]
;BL[20.0]B[gk]OB[4]
;WL[577.424]W[ff]
;BL[20.0]B[eg]OB[4]
;WL[573.927]C[I have no idea what this move does.
*** It makes territory in the top right corner and threatens to connect on the right side.]W[rg]
;BL[20.0]B[hf]OB[4]
;WL[569.177]W[gf]
;BL[20.0]B[bf]OB[4]
;WL[564.894]W[am]
(
;BL[20.0]C[*** See variation.
]OB[4]B[br]
;WL[561.907]C[Again I'm not sure what the point of this is.]W[rh]
;BL[20.0]C[*** Good.
End of comments.]OB[4]B[rm]
;WL[558.964]W[oq]
;BL[20.0]B[op]OB[4]
;WL[550.648]W[rr]
;BL[20.0]B[rq]OB[4]
;WL[547.361]W[rl]
;BL[20.0]B[of]OB[4]
;WL[538.93]W[so]
(
;BL[20.0]C[I don't think this is the way to deal with this, but I'm not sure if I can find much better.]OB[4]B[ro]
;WL[532.601]W[sq]
;BL[20.0]B[rp]OB[4]
;WL[530.751]W[sp]
;BL[20.0]B[sn]OB[4]
;WL[529.983]W[sr]
;BL[20.0]B[pb]OB[4]
;WL[528.419]W[qb]
;BL[20.0]C[White immediately shows me why this is not the correct connection]OB[4]B[nb]
;WL[525.995]W[pa]
;BL[20.0]B[ob]OB[4]
;WL[524.14]W[he]
;BL[20.0]B[ie]OB[4]
;WL[522.084]W[sl]
;BL[20.0]B[qm]OB[4]
;WL[519.806]W[gp]
;BL[20.0]B[pf]OB[4]
;WL[517.033]W[qf]
;BL[20.0]B[hg]OB[4]
;WL[498.003]W[ej]
;BL[20.0]B[fk]OB[4]
;WL[495.965]W[ei]
;BL[20.0]B[gi]OB[4]
;WL[494.615]W[gh]
;BL[20.0]B[hi]OB[4]
;WL[493.904]W[ek]
;BL[20.0]B[el]OB[4]
;WL[491.986]W[gd]
;BL[20.0]B[ic]OB[4]
;WL[487.953]W[bs]
;BL[20.0]B[ba]OB[4]
;WL[483.933]W[ha]
;BL[20.0]B[ia]OB[4]
;WL[480.354]W[cg]
;BL[20.0]B[dg]OB[4]
;WL[478.507]W[ci]
;BL[20.0]B[dh]OB[4]
;WL[463.727]W[fp]
;BL[20.0]B[oa]OB[4]
;WL[461.537]W[qa]
;BL[20.0]B[fo]OB[4]
;WL[456.548]W[ai]
;BL[20.0]B[sm]OB[4]
;WL[453.903]W[ag]
;BL[20.0]B[af]OB[4]
;WL[434.923]W[pq]
;BL[20.0]B[ao]OB[4]
;WL[412.106]W[ca]
;BL[20.0]B[an]C[Epithany \[5k\]\: I think you win by 5]OB[4]
;WL[380.819]W[bm]
;BL[20.0]C[dutchie \[14k\]\: I've not had any time to count]OB[4]B[ar]
;WL[366.91]W[cs]
;BL[20.0]B[tt]OB[3]
;TB[aa:ac][ad:bd][ae:de][ap:cp][aq][co][dn:fn][em:MG][fl:jl][gj:ij][if:nf][ig][ja:na][jb:mb][je:me][jh:ki][kc:md][kg:lg][kj:lj][mh:ph][nn:pn][oo:qo][pi][qp][rn]WL[366.908]TW[ah][aj:bl][bi][db][dr][ds:ss][ea:ga][ec][eq][fb][fr:gr][ge][gq:jq][io:jo][ip:lp][ir:or][kn][lo][lq:mq][pd][qc:sc][qe:se][qk:sk][ra:sb][rd:sd][rf:sf][rj:sj][sg:si]W[tt]
)
(
;B[sm]
;W[sq]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]
;B[ro]
;W[sn]
;B[rn]
;W[sr]
;B[sl]
;W[sk]
)
(
;B[sn]
;W[rn]
;B[sm]
;W[qm]
;B[ro]
;W[sp]
;B[sq]
;W[sl]
;B[rn]
)
)
(
;C[*** Threatens double atari.]B[rh]
;W[rj]
;B[qf]
;W[rf]
;B[re]
;W[pf]
;B[sg]
;W[qe]
;B[sf]
;W[qf]
)
)
(
;B[hi]
;W[ih]
;B[jh]
)
)
(
;B[gi]
)
)
(
;B[ic]
)
)
(
;B[fd]
(
;W[ee]
;B[fb]
)
(
;W[fb]
;B[ee]
)
(
;W[dc]
;B[ee]
;W[ec]
;C[*** Bingo!]B[fb]
)
)
)
(
;C[*** Better to get in front.]B[cg]
)
)
(
;C[*** Nearly secures a huge territory while attacking White. Can White make life?]B[ci]
)
)
(
;B[ce]
)
)
(
;B[pe]
;W[pf]
;B[qe]
;W[qf]
;B[re]
;W[of]
;C[*** Captures the stones. ]B[ng]
)
)
(
;C[*** White may well give up the corner. ]B[qd]
(
;W[nc]
;B[ob]
;W[nd]
;B[pb]
)
(
;W[ob]
;B[nc]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]
;B[rd]
;W[nb]
;B[mc]
;W[mb]
;B[lc]
)
)
)
(
;W[oi]
(
;C[*** Probably better to sacrifice the three stones. See variation.]B[nk]
;W[mk]
;B[nj]
;W[mh]
;B[li]
;W[lh]
;B[ki]
;W[qg]
)
(
;B[mh]
;W[nk]
;C[*** Solid and strong.]B[ng]
)
)
)
(
;C[*** Attacks the R-10 stone while working with the Black stones in the bottom right corner. Not easy for White who may well sacrifice the R-10 stone. See continuations.]B[pk]
(
;W[qh]
;B[ri]
;W[ph]
;B[rj]
)
(
;W[qk]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[qm]
;W[ri]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]
;C[*** White makes small life. Better for Black.]B[qf]
)
)
)
(
;B[ce]
)
(
;B[qg]
)
(
;B[pc]
)
)
(
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[in]
;C[I'm probably still cut even here
*** See continuation.]W[ip]
;B[jm]
;W[kn]
;B[gp]
(
;W[gq]
;C[*** Bingo.]B[hq]
)
(
;W[hq]
;B[gq]
(
;W[gr]
;C[*** Bingo!]B[hr]
)
(
;W[hr]
;C[*** Very bad for White. The White stones in the fight have only three dame, the Black stones have five.]B[gr]
;W[is]
(
;B[gs]
(
;W[js]
;B[kr]
;W[ks]
;B[lr]
;W[ls]
;B[mr]
;W[ms]
;B[nr]
;W[ns]
;B[os]
;W[or]
;B[hs]
;W[ps]
;B[ir]
)
(
;W[kr]
;B[js]
;C[*** Black does not need to reply. See continuation.]W[ks]
;W[kp]
;B[hs]
)
)
(
;B[js]
;W[gs]
;B[fs]
;C[*** Ko?]W[fr]
;B[ir]
;W[es]
;C[*** No ko.]B[iq]
;W[fs]
;B[hs]
)
)
)
)
)
(
;C[*** This is a good idea.]B[in]
;W[jm]
;C[*** This is usual. A hanging connection.]B[ho]
)
)
(
;C[*** Simple and strong. Prevents a White play here.]B[jn]
)
)
(
;B[kp]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
(
;W[mp]
;C[*** Ladder.]B[kn]
)
(
;W[kn]
;B[mp]
;W[lq]
;C[*** Threatens the three White stones.]B[mq]
;W[mo]
;B[ln]
;W[mr]
;B[np]
;C[*** White saves them, but. . . .]W[lr]
;B[oq]
;W[nr]
;C[*** Not easy for White. The White group in the bottom right corner is not yet alive.]B[in]
)
)
)
(
;C[*** Attacks the White group and aims at building up outside strength.]B[mp]
;W[mq]
;C[*** Threatens to push through.]B[lp]
(
;W[kp]
;C[*** For instance.]B[lq]
(
;W[lr]
;B[kr]
;W[ko]
;B[mr]
)
(
;W[kr]
;B[lr]
;W[ko]
;B[ks]
)
)
(
;W[kr]
;C[*** Black is solid and strong, and likely to make territory in the bottom right center.]B[kp]
)
)
)
(
;C[*** Secures the corner and attacks the White group, which has no eyes yet.]B[cr]
)
)
(
;C[*** Puts pressure on the orphan White stone.]B[gp]
)
(
;C[*** Not so much pressure, but strong outside.]B[fo]
)
)
(
;C[*** This is also playable.]B[jq]
)
)
Edit: Somehow the variations are in the wrong places. Very strange. I'm working on it.
Edit: All OK now. The misplacement of variations occurred because of \:( in a comment. Then there were some lost moves because of \]: in some comments. Those were resolved by putting the move before the comment in the node.

Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:40 pm
by dutchie
I played a couple of games tonight, both against a couple of chess players I know from over in that world. Neither of them had a rating yet, but I think my first opponent peaked at 9k many years ago. My second opponent, who I narrowly defeated despite my best efforts to kill all my stones (including a glorious 20 stone snapback), I think is more of a new player. Here's the loss to the former 9k:
https://lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8185
Comments gratefully received as always.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:17 am
by skydyr
Some comments on the game:
https://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8186
The main takeaway is that you need to recognize urgent situations and not tenuki. To some degree, of course, this just comes with experience, but the whole game hinged on what happened in the lower right.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:45 pm
by dutchie
Thanks for the review, skydyr. My thinking behind the tenuki at 39 was that I'd traded my two stones (P4) for two of white's (L2). I didn't appreciate until later in the game how important Q5 was to cut white, and to prevent those stones from being able to push into the centre.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:38 am
by dutchie
I'm (sort of) stuck on this tsumego:
https://lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8189
I was under the impression that only one move is supposed to be correct, but I can't find a way for White to live after any of the three moves played out there (A17, B19, E19). Could anyone give me some clues to what I'm missing? I think I may have just been staring at this for too long and there's something obvious.
Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:44 pm
by tnan123
Nice to see you start this journal. Best of luck in your Go studies! You're probably still a bit ahead of me, but its good to know someone embarking on this journey as well. I've also started the Learn to Play Go Series (almost done with book II) as you and am doing tsumego, in addition to still sharing time with chess and all the other life stuff.
Keep the journal up as you have at least one interested reader

Re: dutchie's journal
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:18 am
by Uberdude
In the problem all 3 moves kill, though the hanes are better because they don't rely on bent four in the corner (and don't lose points if white later lives through an ignored ko threat). Also just a comment about your variations, you seem to like falling back and making an eye instead of trying to make a large eyespace, for example on the top variation move 4. The more natural way would be white plays 4 at a18, making as big as eyespace as possible, and then black plays b19 vital point to kill. This is both a better instinct for trying to build maximum eyespace, and is actually a better way to die because it leaves more aji, for example white b14 would be sente for a ko to connect and save the group, but with your move you are just dead without aji (plus by making black do the placement if you do get a 2nd eye later he gave you points).
Edit: not a ko, it's a clean connection by connect-and-die.