[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | . O . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
Problem 3 (9 points)
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Have fun!
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:13 am
by EdLee
2017 Round 2.1 (004)
$$B B kills
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X . . . . .
$$ | . O X . . . . .
$$ | 4 O X , . . . .
$$ | 1 X O X . . . .
$$ | 2 O O X . X . .
$$ | . 5 3 . . . . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B B kills
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X . . . . .
$$ | . O X . . . . .
$$ | 4 O X , . . . .
$$ | 1 X O X . . . .
$$ | 2 O O X . X . .
$$ | . 5 3 . . . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
2017 Round 2.2 (005)
$$B First feelings: (a) or (b)
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | a O . . . O X .
$$ | . b . . O . . .
$$ | ---------------
[go]$$B First feelings: (a) or (b)
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | a O . . . O X .
$$ | . b . . O . . .
$$ | ---------------[/go]
Hane:
$$B W dies
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 1 O . 3 . O X .
$$ | . . 2 . O . . .
$$ | ---------------
[go]$$B W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 6 5 O X .
$$ | . 1 3 . O . . .
$$ | ---------------[/go]
$$B :b5: @ (a) or (b): seki
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 . 6 O X .
$$ | . 1 3 a O . b .
$$ | ---------------
[go]$$B :b5: @ (a) or (b): seki
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 . 6 O X .
$$ | . 1 3 a O . b .
$$ | ---------------[/go]
2017 Round 2.3 (006)
$$B W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 3 1 2 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . 4 . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 3 1 2 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . 4 . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
$$B W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$----------------------
[go]$$B W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$----------------------[/go]
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$----------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$----------------------[/go]
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:23 am
by Kirby
@EdLee:
Your solution for #1 is correct. Looks like you're still investigating the other two, so I won't comment on those.
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:57 am
by Lanrose
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X . . . . .
$$ | . O X . . . . .
$$ | 4 O X , . . . .
$$ | 1 X O X . . . .
$$ | 2 O O X . X . .
$$ | . 5 3 . . . . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B First version W lives
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 3 4 . O X .
$$ | . 1 5 . O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 6 . O X .
$$ | 8 1 3 5 O 7 . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B same as before
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 6 . O X .
$$ | 8 1 3 5 O 7 . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
$$B Ko fight
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | O O O O 3 O X .
$$ | O . 2 . O 1 . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | a O . c . O X .
$$ | . b . . O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
This reminds me of this problem Bill Spight posted a while back. But there's a crucial difference; if black hanes at a here and white decends at b, the resulting shape is dead instead of alive. That suggests to me that black can do better than ko in this problem and that c is a key point.
Here's my answer:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 2 O 4 1 3 O X .
$$ | . . . . O 5 . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 5 O 3 1 4 O X .
$$ | . . . 2 O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
Problem 3 (9 points)
I think this clamp works:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 3 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . . . . 2 a . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 3 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 . O X .
$$ | . . . . 2 a . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
The hane at a is answered by the same 3.
If white tries this
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , b . O a X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 4 O X .
$$ | . . . 7 3 5 6 O .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , b . O a X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 4 O X .
$$ | . . . 7 3 5 6 O .
$$ --------------------[/go]
The weakness at a and the shortage of liberties at b ensure white can't get two eyes.
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:51 pm
by jeromie
Oops. On problem 3 I missed white's throw in. I've looked at the other contestants' answers, so I'm disqualified from posting another solution.
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 6 O X .
$$ | . . . 7 3 4 5 O .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 . O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 6 O X .
$$ | . . . 7 3 4 5 O .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:11 pm
by gamesorry
1.
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X . . . . .
$$ | . O X . . . . .
$$ | . O X , . . . .
$$ | 1 X O X . . . .
$$ | 2 O O X . X . .
$$ | . a 3 . . . . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 1 O . 2 . O X .
$$ | . 3 4 . O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
3.
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 4 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 7 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 6 5 . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 4 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 7 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 6 5 . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Variation:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 4 . 7 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 5 6 . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 4 . 7 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 5 6 . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Variation:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 9 . 4 O 5 X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 2 8 6 O 7 .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 9 . 4 O 5 X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 2 8 6 O 7 .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Variation:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 5 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 4 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 2 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 5 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 4 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 2 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Variation:
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 7 5 6 O 4 X ,
$$ | . . . X O a 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 2 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 8 . 9 O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 7 5 6 O 4 X ,
$$ | . . . X O a 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 2 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . 8 . 9 O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
B fails
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 4 . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 8 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 3 O X .
$$ | . . . . 5 6 7 O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 4 . . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O 2 8 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 1 3 O X .
$$ | . . . . 5 6 7 O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
B fails
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 3 1 2 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . 4 . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X 3 1 2 O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . . O X .
$$ | . . . . 4 . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:12 pm
by Kirby
@jeromie:
Looks good for problems 1 & 2.
And, indeed, that throw-in poses an issue from problem 3
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:14 pm
by Kirby
@gamesorry:
Good work! Regarding problem 3, do you have a response for white's connection with , below?
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:23 pm
by Shaddy
Problem 1 (3 points)
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X . . . . .
$$ | . O X . . . . .
$$ | . O X , . . . .
$$ | 1 X O X . . . .
$$ | 2 O O X . X . .
$$ | . . 3 . . . . .
$$ ----------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X X X . . .
$$ | . X O O O X X .
$$ | 3 O 2 1 . O X .
$$ | . 4 . 5 O . . .
$$ ----------------[/go]
Problem 3 (9 points)
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 4 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . 5 . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 4 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . 2 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 3 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . 5 . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
so it's ko with 2 @ 4, 5 @ 2.
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:50 pm
by gamesorry
Kirby wrote:@gamesorry:
Good work! Regarding problem 3, do you have a response for white's connection with , below?
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 . O . X ,
$$ | . . . X O . . O X .
$$ | . X . X O . 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Oops, nice move! This should be a ko
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 7 O 5 X ,
$$ | . . . X O 4 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 6 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------
[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X X X . . . .
$$ | . . X O O O X X . .
$$ | . . X , 2 7 O 5 X ,
$$ | . . . X O 4 3 O X .
$$ | . X . X O 6 1 O X .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . .
$$ --------------------[/go]
Re: L19 Go Problem Championship: Round 2
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:19 pm
by Kirby
@Shaddy:
Not sure I get the causal implication with the "so" in your comment.
The diagrams you provided are correct, and ko is correct for the third problem - but I didn't quite get your comment. With 5@2, where are 3 and 4?