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Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum?
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:09 am
by Bonobo
Hello admins,
I think it’s time to …
- Lock this sub-forum; kaya.gs has been dead for so long now …
- Create a new sub-forum for OGS-related posts.
Thanks in advance
Tom
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:32 am
by ez4u
Bonobo wrote:Hello admins,
I think it’s time to …
- Lock this sub-forum; kaya.gs has been dead for so long now …
- Create a new sub-forum for OGS-related posts.
Thanks in advance
Tom
What is it with you OGS fan boys that you hate the memory of kaya so much? This sub-forum has been dead for two years until your post. Why do you see the creation of an OGS sub-forum as somehow linked to locking this one? Get over it and get on with your life.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:54 am
by hyperpape
That's a bit much, Dave.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:23 am
by Bonobo
ez4u wrote:What is it with you OGS fan boys that you hate the memory of kaya so much?
Dave, FYI: I was a great fan of kaya while it existed, even a paying supporter.
[..] Get over it and get on with your life.
Thanks, very friendly, I wish you also a good life
♥
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:58 pm
by ez4u
Well
I found the juxtaposition of ideas baffling the last time Tom made the same proposal and I still do.
Was I rude? Yes I was. I apologize. (Always be ready to activate your 'ez' filter on Saturday night - I've inevitably been out drinking with my Go buddies!)
PS: I was also a paying supporter of kaya. The 'get over it' part of my previous post actually was meant as advice (badly phrased!). I hadn't given it a thought in years until yesterday.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:21 pm
by Kirby
I thought everyone posted on L19 when they were drunk.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:21 am
by daal
I'll second Bonobo's proposal. Given the success of the new OGS in terms of its website-based implementation, its substantial user base, and continuing development of its features, it would be nice if we had a place here to talk about it.
Why isn't there an OGS sub-forum here yet? Is it because they have their own forums, and there is no perceived need? Perhaps it does have something to do with dead kaya - admins not wanting L19 to sprawl out too much, and not wanting to repeat the mistake of reacting to the hype...
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:27 am
by Kirby
To give a serious response to this thread, IIRC, the choice of subforums was somewhat adhoc, partially based on what GoDiscussions.com used, with a few additions. I personally don't use the subforums much, with the exception of trying to select an appropriate one when creating a new thread. Most of my browsing is done via the "View new posts" feature.
I'm not opposed to an OGS forum, or the presence (or removal) of a Kaya.gs forum. Subforums are easy for admins to add and remove, so if there's enough demand, I don't see a problem with accommodating to this organizational request.
Maybe someone should make a poll?
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:15 pm
by Leira
Kirby wrote:Maybe someone should make a poll?
... and this was liked by Bonobo. Yet no poll is happening.
C'mon, someone has to bite the bullet. Was this thread made with serious intent, or just fuel for another flamewar?
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:24 pm
by Bonobo
Well, I find it baffling that juxtaposing a long deceased Go server with one that’s alive and kickin’, one that’s continually (if slowly) growing, can be so baffling to some
Was I rude? Yes I was. I apologize. (Always be ready to activate your 'ez' filter on Saturday night - I've inevitably been out drinking with my Go buddies!)
You more than made up or that by making my LOL Out Loud (did you know that LOL stands for “LOL Out Loud”?) … Anyway, I can relate to that. And I can tolerate a lot more “rudeness” from people I can relate to, so … all is well.
I just wish we lived closer to each other, then we could get drunk together and (carefully) test out our respective rudeness tolerance IRL
Peace, Tom
<edit>And this:
Leira wrote:Kirby wrote:Maybe someone should make a poll?
... and this was liked by Bonobo. Yet no poll is happening.
C'mon, someone has to bite the bullet. Was this thread made with serious intent, or just fuel for another flamewar?
<sigh> I’m just too busy currently, too tired to do it right now. And no, I have no interest in a flame war. Life’s hard enough
</edit>
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:08 pm
by Leira
Bonobo wrote: I’m just too busy currently, too tired to do it right now.
There you go then.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:32 pm
by Bantari
All flames aside, I second the motion of closing the Kaya forum. Although I also question the necessity of it. Is there a downside in having the forum open? Nobody posts there anyways, so why anybody cares if it is formally closed or not. Its dead.
About OGS sub-forum - is there a need? Do OGS people want to post here in general? I have seen some OGS-related posts, but not that many...
Come to think of it, it might be an idea to simply consolidate all the server-forums into 'Go Servers' sub-forum. As far as I cam concerned, it would really simplify things. I, like most others, access messages via the 'view unread/new posts' link. And it would save me time when i create new threads so I won't have to figure out which forum to post in.
The only reason I can see for so many dedicated sub-forums is if people really use this feature to access posts from specific sub-forum only. It might be they do, so we should have all the sub-forums, and create a new one for OGS. Or maybe
they don't and we can consolidate for simplicity.
What I think would also me a new feature is to enable/disable sub-forums in the 'View unread posts' list, So if you are not interested, for example, in Malkovich posts - you never have to see them.
PS>
We could introduce some metric, for example: if a topic hits 100 threads/posts a year, it gets a sub-forum. If it does not, it does not. The sub-forum can get merged into some general topic if the traffic drops down. Do it on request-basis (so if somebody requests a sub-forum, check the messages and decide) and it might work. With some filters for potential abuse, of course.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:34 pm
by Bantari
ez4u wrote:Bonobo wrote:Hello admins,
I think it’s time to …
- Lock this sub-forum; kaya.gs has been dead for so long now …
- Create a new sub-forum for OGS-related posts.
Thanks in advance
Tom
What is it with you OGS fan boys that you hate the memory of kaya so much? This sub-forum has been dead for two years until your post. Why do you see the creation of an OGS sub-forum as somehow linked to locking this one? Get over it and get on with your life.
PMS much?
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:52 pm
by Bonobo
Bantari wrote:[..] it might be an idea to simply consolidate all the server-forums into 'Go Servers' sub-forum. As far as I cam concerned, it would really simplify things. [..]
(Emphasis added)
I like this idea. Might really be the best and easiest (as in “most logical") thing to do.Anyway, it definitely seems odd to me that people post KGS-related posts to the KGS subforum, IGS-related posts to the IGS forum, Tygem-related posts … (you get it) but OGS-related posts turn up anywhere else. For me it’s not about “ranking OGS up”, it’s just the inconsistency that irks me. Keeping a sub-forum for a long dead server open while there is none for this “new” and increasingly popular server that people apparently want to talk about about
is indeed odd, isn't it?
Most OGS-related stuff I’d actually prefer seeing discussed over there in the OGS forum b/c that’s where the probability is higher that the staff will read it, but there will always be people who’d rather want to talk about it elsewhere.
Disclaimer: I am, as you may know, “affiliated” (sort of, in that I am one of moderators there, albeit probably the least active one), but please note that I’ve been enthusiastic about nova.gs almost from it’s beginning (“early adopter”), and just as enthused later about the new (merged) OGS,
long before I joined the team.
Bantari wrote:PMS much?
Oh, please don’t do that
It’s not necessary, and it’s not helpful.
Re: Lock This Sub-Forum, please? And Create An OGS Sub-Forum
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:36 pm
by Bantari
Bonobo wrote:Bantari wrote:PMS much?
Oh, please don’t do that
It’s not necessary, and it’s not helpful.
Right. Knee-jerk... habit... hair-trigger... i have no excuse.
My apologies.