weak game ?
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:53 pm
by otenki
Hey guys,
My opponent said at the end of my game that I was weak.
I'm a 1k on kgs and played a 0.5 komi game with 1d.
In my observation if I played 180 at e4 black will be good right since white has to capture the center stones @j7; black can go back and fix the cut.
After that black should be ahead by 10 ?
Well normaly I don't really care about if my oponents think that I'm not very good but he got me thinking... what moves made it seem I was so weak?
So I wonder, which moves do you think is the really weak ones ?
Thanks,
Otenki (shakenaji)
My opponent said at the end of my game that I was weak.
I'm a 1k on kgs and played a 0.5 komi game with 1d.
In my observation if I played 180 at e4 black will be good right since white has to capture the center stones @j7; black can go back and fix the cut.
After that black should be ahead by 10 ?
Well normaly I don't really care about if my oponents think that I'm not very good but he got me thinking... what moves made it seem I was so weak?
So I wonder, which moves do you think is the really weak ones ?
Thanks,
Otenki (shakenaji)
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1500]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[igoslave]PB[shakenaji]WR[1d]BR[1k]DT[2017-04-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[shakenaji [1k\]: hi gg
]RE[W+Resign]
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]
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]
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]
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;W[gf]WL[876.514]C[shakenaji [1k\]: yeah white has 2 ways to connect
igoslave [1d\]: your time is running out
igoslave [1d\]: give up?
]
;B[ep]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[im]WL[869.409]
;B[lp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qr]WL[862.277]C[shakenaji [1k\]: yes
shakenaji [1k\]: 30 + points
shakenaji [1k\]: did a quick count
shakenaji [1k\]: oh man
shakenaji [1k\]: i never though it could be cut
igoslave [1d\]: anyway you are weak.
shakenaji [1k\]: what do you mean ?
igoslave [1d\]: just you are weak/
igoslave [1d\]: tha is all.
shakenaji [1k\]: ok thanks for the compliment man
shakenaji [1k\]:
])
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1500]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[igoslave]PB[shakenaji]WR[1d]BR[1k]DT[2017-04-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[shakenaji [1k\]: hi gg
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1497.49]
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]
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]
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;W[hg]WL[881.246]
;B[ih]BL[40.142]
;W[gh]WL[878.917]C[shakenaji [1k\]: lol oops
]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gf]WL[876.514]C[shakenaji [1k\]: yeah white has 2 ways to connect
igoslave [1d\]: your time is running out
igoslave [1d\]: give up?
]
;B[ep]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[im]WL[869.409]
;B[lp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qr]WL[862.277]C[shakenaji [1k\]: yes
shakenaji [1k\]: 30 + points
shakenaji [1k\]: did a quick count
shakenaji [1k\]: oh man
shakenaji [1k\]: i never though it could be cut
igoslave [1d\]: anyway you are weak.
shakenaji [1k\]: what do you mean ?
igoslave [1d\]: just you are weak/
igoslave [1d\]: tha is all.
shakenaji [1k\]: ok thanks for the compliment man
shakenaji [1k\]:
])
Why not the jump attachment at P-05?
Why not the jump attachment at Q-14? If White hanes, crosscut.
Better at M-15, no?
I don’t know if this is weak, but it may be an overplay. Isn’t the top side big now?
Consistent with
.
Cedes thickness to White, when Black should attack the central White group.