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Post #1 Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 am 
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I think this deserves to be more widely known. :) The European Professional System made it's first promotion last month. Ilya Shikshin became 2 dan pro.

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Here are the EGF promotion regulations btw... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iKX ... XVDhI/edit

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:54 am 
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daal wrote:
Here are the EGF promotion regulations btw... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iKX ... XVDhI/edit

splendid.

would you know if the rules are also linked somewhere from egf website, and more importantly, is there anywhere a table with players' points?

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Post #4 Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:14 am 
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The rules are linked to somewhere on the EGF site, but not at all very prominently.
There is no promotion points table that I have seen - I guess that you could make one.

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:51 am 
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i've learnt the rules are also at senseis

Javaness2 wrote:
There is no promotion points table that I have seen - I guess that you could make one.

sure i could. but i imagine someone at EGF already has one.

anyway, i've also heard Pavol Lisý has already accumulated 38/40 points required for 2p, so we can expect another promotion soon

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:27 am 
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Reaching the top 2 in an international tournament only makes you 6p?

So it's tougher than the Japanese and Chinese promotion systems: https://senseis.xmp.net/?NihonKiInNewPromotionSystem, https://senseis.xmp.net/?ChinesePromotionSystem. I'm not sure how to order it compared to the Korean system.

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Post #7 Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 am 
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I think that Points Promotion systems are probably quite hard to get right. Since this is only the initial version, it may well be the case that with a few more years data we will see a change to make things tougher. I'm not at all motivated to piece the data together to examine the picture in detail. Taken at face value, it looks a bit better than the fearsome EGF Pair Go Points System.

Probably the EGF needs still to work on better visibility for the Professional system if it is going to attract more sponsors. It's quite hard to find details right now, because you need to go to the results / history section to find them. From memory they were working on having their own page or section - but it is not there yet.
https://www.eurogofed.org/history/europros.htm

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Post #8 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:14 am 
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It seems that Pavol Lisy just made 2 pro through his performance in the Chunlan Cup.

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:38 am 
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... at which he beat Eric Lui 1p AGA, but then Chen Yaoye 9p got his revenge for losing to Western pro Ryan Li 1p AGA last year with a crushing victory against Pavol.

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Post #10 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:38 pm 
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Javaness2 wrote:
It seems that Pavol Lisy just made 2 pro through his performance in the Chunlan Cup.


Can someone help reconstruct his accumulation of HDP and LDP? I looked at the chart but maybe I can't figure out what counts and what doesn't.

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Post #11 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:58 pm 
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Well I guess it will be made public soon enough ...
Can't say I would fancy the attempt myself

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Post #12 Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:15 am 
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Javaness2 wrote:
Well I guess it will be made public soon enough ...
Can't say I would fancy the attempt myself

it's online now

we hope to improve the info about the european pros and move them more in front (and kick the forum into the background) soon.


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Post #13 Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:32 am 
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I created a document with the promotional report for all european Pros: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18cQPKamnkSUBgLQoc1ATLov-YxDT99z-YThP_6iXifA/edit?usp=sharing

According to Pavol Lisy, wins in the Grand Prix finals count, even though the official document doesn't list this tournament among tournament eligible for LDPs. I don't know the amount of bonus points received for winning this tournament. It should be > 3 (amount for winning Level A Bonus Tournament) and <= 10 (the major tournaments). My guess is that it should be 10, but that would mean Ali Jabarin would have been 2p in February 2018.

You should be able to leave comments. Let me know if I made some mistake somewhere


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Post #14 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:27 am 
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According the EGD Ali has been promoted to 2p.


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Post #15 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:04 am 
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Christoph wrote:
According the EGD Ali has been promoted to 2p.


Correct. But I saw that they still didn't post his promotion report. I believe that is because they haven't decided officially how many LDPs to award to the winner of the Grand Prix.

The next up is Matheusz Surma. He is only one LDP away from 2p.

After Matheusz, it will be a long time until the next 2p. My guess is that it will be one of the Mitic brothers, or whoever becomes the next pro. Andrii Kravetz seems too far from 2p at the moment.

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Post #16 Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:28 am 
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Christoph wrote:
According the EGD Ali has been promoted to 2p.
Correct. But I saw that they still didn't post his promotion report. I believe that is because they haven't decided officially how many LDPs to award to the winner of the Grand Prix.
Actually we are aware of it. Ali still couldn't gather all the games he played, so it will be updated on the EGF webpage as soon as he did.
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The next up is Matheusz Surma. He is only one LDP away from 2p.

After Matheusz, it will be a long time until the next 2p. My guess is that it will be one of the Mitic brothers, or whoever becomes the next pro. Andrii Kravetz seems too far from 2p at the moment.
Could it be Mateusz has already got his points as he played against some pros at the Eastern Economic Forum Tournament last week?

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