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Gomoto's Joseki Studies #4
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by Gomoto
This time

I will make a ballsy statement:
This abomination:
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$$ . . . 4 2 O . . . . |
$$ . . 5 3 1 X O O . . |
$$ , . . . . . X X . . |
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[go]$$B
$$ --------------------+
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$$ . . . 4 2 O . . . . |
$$ . . 5 3 1 X O O . . |
$$ , . . . . . X X . . |
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$$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]
is
not a joseki (anymore).
If you pretend otherwise, feel free to play it against me. I will rejoice everytime my opponents go for it.
Re: Gomoto's Joseki Studies #4
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by Gomoto
I know there are some manly pro players still going for this jobomination, inspite they are only achieving a 44% winrate with this variation in my database of recent games. I dont get it why even 9d players still try this from time to time.
I am eager to see the pro games you will show me, were this variation is a good way to play indeed.
Have fun! Show us Gomoto is a scaramouch!

Re: Gomoto's Joseki Studies #4
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:37 pm
by Gomoto
Here is an example for such a manly pro player:
Very strong Shin Jinseo is fine with 44% winrate at move 15 (Leela Zero and my pro database agree on this winrate by coincidence

). He is really a bold player!
Re: Gomoto's Joseki Studies #4
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:51 pm
by Gomoto
I personally like this variation even more (for

):
$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . 1 3 X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . 1 3 X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 2 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]