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When to invade/reduce - please review for black
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:55 pm
by Degan
- Degan-2.sgf
- Degan [10k] v. jlee [11k] 2018-05-31
- (5.65 KiB) Downloaded 441 times
While attempting to use my own strengths, I created a week group and as a result allowed my opponent to create a huge group at the bottom. Of course there may be other systematic error that I do not even realize.
I have gone through the game and made comments (in the attached version, not in the inline version) at various moves.
Thank you in advance.
Degan
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:14 pm
by EdLee
Hi Degan,
please review for black
You were

; did you want to review for your opp ?
Grabbed the comment-free version off KGS.
General comments up to LL corner fight:
sense of what's big and small, off ;
slow, gote sequences ; making weak groups for yourself:
Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:45 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I'm going to assume that the OP means literally what he said.
The following is a review for black.
Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:50 pm
by Degan
Hello EdLee,
Thank you very much for the review. I was white and I appreciate you seeing through my erroneous subject.
You have given me some great things to work on in my next games. I expect I will go through your review more in the future to work on my shape.
I approached what I can see as the small area on the lower right, as I was concerned about not having the chance to invade later. I now see that I must continue to look for and playing into the largest remaining areas. When my opponent made several two space extensions on the fourth line, I thought of that as an overplay, that I would find a weakness to exploit, but my local play was wrong.
First, I will research what is Leela and how to "ask" it.
Thank you,
Degan
Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:05 pm
by Degan
Hello Joaz Banbeck,
I appreciate you making a review as well, and following my stated request. I also appreciate that you showed variations for white as well as black.
I will have plenty to try to apply in my next games.
Thank you,
Degan
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:54 pm
by EdLee
Hi Degan,
Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go
from the main forum. Examples:
LeelaZero
Lizzie
Re:
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:20 pm
by Degan
Hello EdLee,
EdLee wrote:
Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go
from the main forum. Examples:
LeelaZero
Lizzie
I did not have much trouble. I went to
https://senseis.xmp.net and searched for Leela. This game me the link to:
https://www.sjeng.org/leela.html where I was able to download a Windows installer, that went smoothly. I loaded this game and went through the moves. It is interesting.
Thanks,
Degan
Re: When to invade/reduce - please review for black
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:13 pm
by dfan
Note that when Ed says "Leela" he means "Leela Zero" (I think). But Leela is good to analyze with too, just not as strong (which is not always a bad thing).