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4th Bailing cup
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:37 am
by trout
4th Bailing cup has been changed from open tournament to invitational.
Also prize is reduced from 1,800,000 rmb to 1,000,000 rmb for winner.
Invitees are as follow.
Korea; Park Jeonghwan, Shin Jinseo, Kim Jiseok, and Byun Samgil
China; Ke Jie, Tan Xiao, Lian Xiao, Dang Yifei, Gu Zhihao, Xie Erlhao, and Chen Yaoe
Japan; Iyama Yuuta, Yamashita Keigo, Shibano Doramaru, and Kyo Kagen
Taiwan; Wang Yuanjun
Schedule;
round of 16 - 7/24
round of 8 - 7/26
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:07 pm
by hyperpape
Who is Shija Yuan?
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:53 am
by Uberdude
hyperpape wrote:Who is Shija Yuan?
Presumably Hsu Chiayuan aka Xu Jiayuan (X is sh sound) aka Kyo Kagen.
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:06 am
by trout
Uberdude wrote:hyperpape wrote:Who is Shija Yuan?
Presumably Hsu Chiayuan aka Xu Jiayuan (X is sh sound) aka Kyo Kagen.
Thanks for explanation.
Pairing for round of 16;
Dang Yifei vs Kyo Kagen
Ke Jie vs Kim Jiseok
Chen Yaoe vs Park Jeonghwan
Tan Xiao vs Shibano Doramaru
Gu Zhihao vs Yamashita Keigo
Xie Erlhao vs Byun Samgil
Lian Xiao vs Iyama Yuuta
Wang Yuanjun vs Shin Jinseo
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:57 pm
by sorin
There is no "Shija Yuan".
Please read this for proper transliteration in English:
http://www.usgo.org/news/2018/07/the-po ... ad-in-mei/
It says:
"He was born in Taiwan, where he is known as Hsu Chiayuan (Xu Jiayuan in Pinyin)".
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:22 pm
by trout
Sorry about miss pronounciation. I am Korean and reading Korean article and trying to make sounds as close as possible. What do I know about Chinese pronouciation. If you guys don't like it, you should try to help not complaining. Or I will stop posting any.
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:40 am
by Uberdude
trout is an old Korean baduk fan who for many years gave reports on pro tournaments here from his Korean sources with his transliterations of names to Latin characters. He left L19 a while back but has now returned. I am happy to see this, and welcome his reports despite, or even moreso with, his quirky transliterations. I think we should welcome instead of chide him. Treat it as a learning opportunity for comparative phonology.
Thanks trout!
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:39 am
by Uberdude
Weird shape from Yamashita Keigo vs Gu Zihao, I checked with LZ and she likes it too:
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Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:17 am
by Uberdude
Results:
Ke Jie beat Kim Jiseok by resign in 90 moves (AG joseki and fighting based on them workshop)
Gu Zihao beat Yamashita Keigo +Res
Chen Yaoye beat Park Junghwan +Res (slight surprise given Park's world #1 but Chen has good record against him)
Dang Yifei beat Kyo Kagen +Res (big fight)
Shibano Toramaru beat Tan Xiao by 0.5! Go Japan!
Byun Sangil beat Xie Erhao by 0.5
Shin Jinseo beat Wang Yuanjuan by 1.5
Iyama Yuta beat Lian Xiao (resign at end, 2.5 i think)
P.S. Suprised Mi Yuting wasn't invited but I suppose they went based on him doing badly last year (not making it through prelims) rather than being current Chinese #2.
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:51 am
by Bohdan
Good round for Japan!
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:02 am
by hyperpape
Uberdude wrote:Thanks trout!
Agreed. Your updates are wonderful, Trout.
I myself have no hope when I see the Chinese name of a player who I've known via reading the English transliteration of the Japanese version of their name (I hope that sentence makes sense, but I'm no linguist).
Edit: reduce quote surface
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:22 am
by hyperpape
Interesting meta-point that it seems as if Iyama will play three games in three days, traveling from China to Japan then back to China, with the second game being do or die for keeping his septuple crown.
https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/jp/gosei/
Previously this kind of scheduling issue travel had been cited as a reason for Japanese title holders not to participate as often in Chinese/Korean events.
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:23 am
by trout
Pairing for round of 8;
Ke Jie vs Byun Sangil
Chen Yaoye vs Shibano Toramaru
Shin Jinseo vs Dang Yifei
Iyama Yuta vs Gu Zihao
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:28 am
by Uberdude
Ke vs Kim short game:
Re: 4th Bailing cup
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:38 am
by HermanHiddema
Uberdude wrote:I think we should welcome instead of chide him.
I don't see anyone chiding him? Did sorin do anything more than try to help by showing the right transliteration?