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playing a very basic game
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:30 am
by Knotwilg
In another thread, I posted that an 18 kyu can probably win games easily if
1. they focus on connection/moving out their own groups and separate/surrounding the opponent
2. they are aware of liberties and try keeping more liberties than the opponent in local fights
3. they consider at least 1 alternative and think 3 moves deep
Although I'm probably forging the point, here's a game where Black plays according to these rules and White plays more or less like myself. Black makes a few suboptimal choices and falls a little behind but there is no disastrous disadvantage.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[normal player]PB[basic man]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
(;B[pj]C[connect on a large scale - san ren sei fuseki]
;W[nc]
(;B[pf]C[stay connected]
;W[jd]
(;B[cj]C[split the opponent on a large scale]
;W[cm]
(;B[cg]C[avoid being surrounded]
;W[nq]
(;B[pn]C[stay connected]
;W[jq]
(;B[fc]C[split the opponent on a large scale]
;W[fd]C[local fight]
(;B[gc]C[increase your own liberties where you are weaker and move out]
;W[ec]
(;B[gd]C[move out and split the oppponent]
;W[fe]
(;B[ge]C[move out]
;W[gf]
(;B[ie]C[avoid being surrounded and keep the opponent separated]
;W[hf]
(;B[he]C[stay connected (not the best move: should bamboo)]
;W[jg]
(;B[je]C[avoid being surrounded]
;W[ke]
(;B[kd]C[split the enemy's forces]
;W[ld]
(;B[kc]C[liberties 3-2]
;W[lc]
(;B[kb]C[increase your liberties 4-2]
;W[le]
(;B[ej]C[avoid being surrounded]
;W[ph]
(;B[nf]C[move out and avoid being surrounded]
(;W[nh]
(;B[mg]C[keep separated and stay connected]
;W[mh]
(;B[lg]C[keep separated]
;W[lh]
(;B[kg]C[keep separated]
;W[kh]
(;B[pb]C[surround the enemy]
;W[jf]
;B[kf]C[keep separated]
;W[qe]
(;B[pe]C[stay connected
this is perhaps hard to decide, because the variation requires more than depth of 3 moves
anyway, here Black has a big lead, so let's continue with the variation])
(;B[qf]C[keep separated]
;W[oe]
(;B[of]C[stay connected]
;W[pe]
(;B[re]C[reduce liberties]
;W[rd]
;B[rf]
;W[qd]
(;B[qi]C[move out and connect
(is this hard to see? may be a higher level technique)]
;W[jo]
;B[jh]C[cut on a large scale]
;W[hh]
;B[ji]C[increase liberties and separate]
;W[lk]
;B[jk]C[move out]
;W[lm]
;B[hj]C[connect your stones]
;W[eg]
;B[fp]C[separate on a large scale]
;W[en]
;B[gn]C[move out and separate]
;W[no]C[I'm going to end here
White probably leads in this game, because I didn't restrict her to very basic moves and she played more aggressively
However,
- her top right is equivalent to Black's top
- her bottom is equivalent to Black's right side
By no means Black's basic moves led to a decisively bad position
Although Black's moves were basic, perhaps his level is single digit kyu
A 18k white opponent will not play like this and Black will easily win this way])
(;B[qh]
;W[qi]
;B[pi]C[(this works too]))
(;B[qh]C[tesuji to connect
]
;W[ob]))
(;B[pe]C[stay connected]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[ng])))
(;B[kf]
;W[jf]C[3 liberties]))
(;B[kf]C[keep separated]
;W[jf]))
(;B[lh]
;W[lg]))
(;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[mf]
;W[lf]))
(;W[lg]
;B[oi]
;W[oh]
;B[nh]))
(;B[og]
;W[oh]
;B[nh]
;W[ni]C[difficult]))
(;B[ff]C[split the enemy's forces]
;W[de]
;B[fg]C[increase your liberties]
;W[hh]))
(;B[jc]C[liberties 3-1]
;W[le]C[Black is surrounded but alive]))
(;B[kf]
;W[kc]
;B[jf]))
(;B[kf]
;W[jf]
;B[kd]
;W[le]))
(;B[if]
;W[ig]
;B[kf]
;W[jf]))
(;B[if]
;W[he]
;B[hd]
;W[id]))
(;B[ff]
;W[he]))
(;B[he]
;W[ne]))
(;B[eb]
;W[db]))
(;B[gd]C[reduce opponent's liberties to 2]
;W[fe]
;B[ec]
;W[dc]))
(;B[lc]
;W[ld]
;B[md]
;W[mc]))
(;B[lq]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qp]))
(;B[cf]
;W[ch]
;B[dh]
;W[dg]))
(;B[fq]C[no urgent play locally, so corners-sides-centre again]
;W[dn]
;B[jq]
;W[cj]))
(;B[lc]C[surround the enemy]
;W[qc]
(;B[pc]C[split the opponent's forces])
(;B[qd]C[surround the enemy]
;W[pc]
;B[od]
;W[oc]
(;B[me]C[connect on a large scale])
(;B[nd]))))
(;B[dj]C[split the enemy]
;W[qf]
;B[nc]
;W[qj]))
Re: playing a very basic game
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:26 pm
by saxmaam
I found this helpful. Thanks
Re: playing a very basic game
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:31 am
by Tapani
The trick is just to figure out which basic principle to obey each move and where

Re: playing a very basic game
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:07 am
by sorin
I think it is harder than it looks to play simple like black does in this example.
In particular, the "connecting at a distance" part may be hard, I mean figuring out when it's worth investing a move to do so. Also, it is very easy to create complicated fights where reading ahead just 3 moves won't give a reasonable way out.
It would be nice if actual double-kyu players try this and let us know how it works!
Re: playing a very basic game
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:37 am
by Vio
Wonderful advices. Could even apply for Dan players! Not saying these would be enough per se.
Just saying that they seems hard objectives for 18k. But easy to understand for sure.
Calculating 3 moves ahead is pretty hard. Keeping the most liberties is at the same level as other fundamentals, like playing away from strength, it's like a way to think go.
The first, cut/connect is surely the easiest to understand and apply.
Re: playing a very basic game
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:15 pm
by Applebaps
This is the kind of Go I like to see! It's a tough ideal to aspire to in the heat of battle, but a simple style also has more potential to grow with you, I feel.