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Who will be the next EGF Professional?
Poll ended at Sun May 19, 2019 12:23 am
Cornel Burzo 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
Lukas Podpera 15%  15%  [ 4 ]
Stanislaw Frejlak 48%  48%  [ 13 ]
Chernykh Anton 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Viktor Lin 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Tanguy Le Calvé 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Dominik Boviz 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Rob van Zeijst 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Campagnie Rémi 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jonas Welticke 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Vjacheslav Kajmin 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Sinan Djepov 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ondrej Kruml 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Oscar Vazquez 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
One of the other two 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 27
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Post #1 Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:23 am 
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It will start in a few days time. Who do you think is going to win?
https://www.eurogofed.org/proqualificat ... _2019.html

Rob Van Zeijst is clearly the oldest candidate, apart from him and Cornel, I suppose the rest are all under 30 years old. Cornel starts as favourite if you trust GoR. I think he is the only 'top' player who hasn't gone abroad to study Go.

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Post #2 Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 am 
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Cornel has a nice improvement in rating recently to 7d, anyone know why? Maybe studying with AI?

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But I think I'll still vote for Stanislaw (who leads Cornel 4-2 in head-to-head):
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Post #3 Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:23 am 
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"Great" start from Russian players. A.Chernykh and V.Kajmin missed connecting flight and forfeited their first game. There was an option to restructure the tournament bracket to have them play each other but organizers decided to follow the rules.

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i just hope cornel does it. always enjoying his streams :) maybe the others are stronger, but in a tournament anything can happen. lets just hope the refs don't bottle it ;)

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Post #5 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:46 am 
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"Great" start from Russian players. A.Chernykh and V.Kajmin missed connecting flight and forfeited their first game. There was an option to restructure the tournament bracket to have them play each other but organizers decided to follow the rules.

It's double elimination though so they aren't out yet, just a big disadvantage and free win to Ondrej Kruml and Tang le Calve.

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Post #6 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:24 am 
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Double elimination only on the first two rounds

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Post #7 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:52 am 
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Of the Top 4 seeds, it is only Anton Chernykh who didn't score 2/2, but not making it to the venue for Round 1 would cause that.
eliminated so far: Jonas Welticke, Oscar Vasquez, Sinan Dejpov, and 1 other.
No real surprises so far I think. Cornel - Rob was a match which could have been an upset, but Rob resigned quite politely.

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Post #8 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:36 am 
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On the topic of EGF pro qualifiers and promotions, I notice the Transatlantic games aren't yet in Mateusz's record of low dan promotion points. I think it would be quite reasonable to count 4 wins there ;-) (similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_IIHF ... ontroversy):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1349314411

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Post #9 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:52 pm 
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I predict Cornel vs Siasio final, with rather Siasio winning.

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Post #10 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:33 pm 
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Uberdude wrote:
On the topic of EGF pro qualifiers and promotions, I notice the Transatlantic games aren't yet in Mateusz's record of low dan promotion points. I think it would be quite reasonable to count 4 wins there ;-) (similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_IIHF ... ontroversy):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1349314411


I asked Artem Kachanovski about this and online tournaments don't get LDPs. So wins in the Transatlantic games don't count towards LDPs.

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Post #11 Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:12 am 
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The semi-finals are now in progress:
Stanislaw Frejlak vs Lukas Podpera
Dominik Boviz vs Tanguy le Calve

Dominik had an impressive upset to beat Cornel.
Viktor Lin played a very nicely controlled game against Tanguy, was leading into yose but somehow lost it.

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Post #12 Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:45 am 
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Viktor Lin played a very nicely controlled game against Tanguy, was leading into yose but somehow lost it.


Yeah, I was watching on Twitch at the beginning of the endgame and people were saying Lin was up by 15 or 20 points but then I had to go. What happened?

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Post #13 Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:12 am 
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The game Viktor Lin vs. Tanguy Le Calvé is here:



LeelaZero says that White's move 164 should have been at H5, but I don't really understand why.

BTW, the final will be tomorrow 11:00 CET, Tanguy vs. Lukas.

Recent games Tanguy vs. Lukas:
19 may 2018: Lukas wins
20 jan 2018: Tanguy wins
15 jun 2017: Lukas wins
18 feb 2017: Lukas wins
4 mar 2016: Lukas wins
26 jul 2015: Tanguy wins
13 mar 2015: Lukas wins

It looks like Lukas has better chances, but anything can happen!


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Post #14 Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 3:34 pm 
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jlt wrote:
The game Viktor Lin vs. Tanguy Le Calvé is here:

LeelaZero says that White's move 164 should have been at H5, but I don't really understand why.

move 164 to H5 ( :w1: in my diagram) is sente, then black should play his 4 to a.
If he does not then he is punished by this seq:


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[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . X . O . O . . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . 6 . . 7 . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . 2 5 a X . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X 1 X X O O O X . X O O . |
$$ | X O O X O X O 3 . , . . X . X X X O . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X O . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . O 4 . O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Another black resistance that fails:

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[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . O . . . . . . X . O . O . . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . 6 . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . 2 5 8 X 4 . O X X X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X 1 X X O O O X . X O O . |
$$ | X O O X O X O 3 9 7 . . X . X X X O . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X O . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . O . . O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


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Post #15 Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:17 am 
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Tanguy won !

https://eurogofed.org/proqualification/ ... l#brackets


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Post #16 Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:29 am 
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France has its second pro award after a long wait. Mid game, I really suspected that Lukan's influence was going to be too strong, but somehow Tanguy managed to hang in there. Nobody here voted got him :) but maybe that helped him.

I wonder if they will have a pro qualifier next year, and if they do, will it be reduced to just a straight knockout.

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France has its second pro award after a long wait.


Who was the first one?

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I wonder if they will have a pro qualifier next year, and if they do, will it be reduced to just a straight knockout.

as Ali said near the end of the twitch stream, the next quali is scheduled at 2021. and it is the last one currently scheduled, before reevaluation when Europe is going to be ready for another pro

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Who was the first one?

Fan Hui (FR, 2p China)

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I thought of somebody else actually. The exact status of his might be offered and not taken, I really don't know.

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