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Author:	Javaness2 [ Tue May 14, 2019 12:23 am ]
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It will start in a few days time. Who do you think is going to win? https://www.eurogofed.org/proqualificat ... _2019.html Rob Van Zeijst is clearly the oldest candidate, apart from him and Cornel, I suppose the rest are all under 30 years old. Cornel starts as favourite if you trust GoR. I think he is the only 'top' player who hasn't gone abroad to study Go.

Author:	Uberdude [ Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Cornel has a nice improvement in rating recently to 7d, anyone know why? Maybe studying with AI? But I think I'll still vote for Stanislaw (who leads Cornel 4-2 in head-to-head):

Author:	Arcaress [ Thu May 16, 2019 8:23 am ]
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"Great" start from Russian players. A.Chernykh and V.Kajmin missed connecting flight and forfeited their first game. There was an option to restructure the tournament bracket to have them play each other but organizers decided to follow the rules.

Author:	atarihuana [ Thu May 16, 2019 10:03 am ]
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i just hope cornel does it. always enjoying his streams maybe the others are stronger, but in a tournament anything can happen. lets just hope the refs don't bottle it

Author:	Uberdude [ Fri May 17, 2019 1:46 am ]
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Arcaress wrote: "Great" start from Russian players. A.Chernykh and V.Kajmin missed connecting flight and forfeited their first game. There was an option to restructure the tournament bracket to have them play each other but organizers decided to follow the rules. It's double elimination though so they aren't out yet, just a big disadvantage and free win to Ondrej Kruml and Tang le Calve.

Author:	Fenring [ Fri May 17, 2019 3:24 am ]
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Double elimination only on the first two rounds

Author:	Javaness2 [ Fri May 17, 2019 4:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Of the Top 4 seeds, it is only Anton Chernykh who didn't score 2/2, but not making it to the venue for Round 1 would cause that. eliminated so far: Jonas Welticke, Oscar Vasquez, Sinan Dejpov, and 1 other. No real surprises so far I think. Cornel - Rob was a match which could have been an upset, but Rob resigned quite politely.

Author:	Uberdude [ Fri May 17, 2019 5:36 am ]
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On the topic of EGF pro qualifiers and promotions, I notice the Transatlantic games aren't yet in Mateusz's record of low dan promotion points. I think it would be quite reasonable to count 4 wins there (similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_IIHF ... ontroversy): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1349314411

Author:	AloneAgainstAll [ Fri May 17, 2019 12:52 pm ]
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I predict Cornel vs Siasio final, with rather Siasio winning.

Author:	silviu22 [ Fri May 17, 2019 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Uberdude wrote: On the topic of EGF pro qualifiers and promotions, I notice the Transatlantic games aren't yet in Mateusz's record of low dan promotion points. I think it would be quite reasonable to count 4 wins there (similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_IIHF ... ontroversy): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1349314411 I asked Artem Kachanovski about this and online tournaments don't get LDPs. So wins in the Transatlantic games don't count towards LDPs.

Author:	Uberdude [ Sat May 18, 2019 6:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
The semi-finals are now in progress: Stanislaw Frejlak vs Lukas Podpera Dominik Boviz vs Tanguy le Calve Dominik had an impressive upset to beat Cornel. Viktor Lin played a very nicely controlled game against Tanguy, was leading into yose but somehow lost it.

Author:	jonsa [ Sat May 18, 2019 7:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Uberdude wrote: Viktor Lin played a very nicely controlled game against Tanguy, was leading into yose but somehow lost it. Yeah, I was watching on Twitch at the beginning of the endgame and people were saying Lin was up by 15 or 20 points but then I had to go. What happened?

Author:	jlt [ Sat May 18, 2019 10:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
The game Viktor Lin vs. Tanguy Le Calvé is here: LeelaZero says that White's move 164 should have been at H5, but I don't really understand why. BTW, the final will be tomorrow 11:00 CET, Tanguy vs. Lukas. Recent games Tanguy vs. Lukas: 19 may 2018: Lukas wins 20 jan 2018: Tanguy wins 15 jun 2017: Lukas wins 18 feb 2017: Lukas wins 4 mar 2016: Lukas wins 26 jul 2015: Tanguy wins 13 mar 2015: Lukas wins It looks like Lukas has better chances, but anything can happen!

Author: k0n0 [ Sat May 18, 2019 3:34 pm ]

Post subject: Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers

jlt wrote:

The game Viktor Lin vs. Tanguy Le Calvé is here:

LeelaZero says that White's move 164 should have been at H5, but I don't really understand why.

move 164 to H5 ( :w1:

in my diagram) is sente, then black should play his 4 to a.
If he does not then he is punished by this seq:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . X . O . O . . . | $$ | X O X . . . . 6 . . 7 . O . O O X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . 2 5 a X . . O X X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X X 1 X X O O O X . X O O . | $$ | X O O X O X O 3 . , . . X . X X X O . | $$ | . X X O . O . O X X O . X X X X O . . | $$ | . O O O O . O . O 4 . O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Another black resistance that fails:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . X . O . O . . . | $$ | X O X . . . . 6 . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . 2 5 8 X 4 . O X X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X X 1 X X O O O X . X O O . | $$ | X O O X O X O 3 9 7 . . X . X X X O . | $$ | . X X O . O . O X X O . X X X X O . . | $$ | . O O O O . O . O . . O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:	jlt [ Sun May 19, 2019 7:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Tanguy won ! https://eurogofed.org/proqualification/ ... l#brackets

Author:	Javaness2 [ Sun May 19, 2019 7:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
France has its second pro award after a long wait. Mid game, I really suspected that Lukan's influence was going to be too strong, but somehow Tanguy managed to hang in there. Nobody here voted got him but maybe that helped him. I wonder if they will have a pro qualifier next year, and if they do, will it be reduced to just a straight knockout.

Author:	kimidori [ Sun May 19, 2019 7:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Quote: France has its second pro award after a long wait. Who was the first one?

Author:	Laman [ Sun May 19, 2019 7:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
Javaness2 wrote: I wonder if they will have a pro qualifier next year, and if they do, will it be reduced to just a straight knockout. as Ali said near the end of the twitch stream, the next quali is scheduled at 2021. and it is the last one currently scheduled, before reevaluation when Europe is going to be ready for another pro

Author:	jptavan [ Sun May 19, 2019 8:07 am ]
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Quote: Who was the first one? Fan Hui (FR, 2p China)

Author:	Javaness2 [ Sun May 19, 2019 10:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Euro Pro Qualifiers
I thought of somebody else actually. The exact status of his might be offered and not taken, I really don't know.

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