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Why is white dead?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:41 am
by Jika
This is another exercise from 321go.
Task: Black to play, kill white
$$Bc
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . . .
$$ | O O O X . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . .
$$ | O . O X . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . .
$$ +----------------
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . . .
$$ | O O O X . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . .
$$ | O . O X . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . .
$$ +----------------[/go]
Accepted solution:
$$BmNaN
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . . .
$$ | O O O X . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . .
$$ | O X O X . . . .
$$ | . X O X . . . .
$$ +----------------
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[go]$$BmNaN
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . . .
$$ | O O O X . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . .
$$ | O X O X . . . .
$$ | . X O X . . . .
$$ +----------------[/go]
Question: Why does this kill white?
Seki??
$$BmNaN
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O X O X . . .
$$ | . X O X . . .
$$ +--------------
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[go]$$BmNaN
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O X O X . . .
$$ | . X O X . . .
$$ +--------------[/go]
Re: Why is white dead?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:51 am
by Uberdude
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O 1 O X . . .
$$ | O X O X . . .
$$ | 2 X O X . . .
$$ +--------------
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[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O 1 O X . . .
$$ | O X O X . . .
$$ | 2 X O X . . .
$$ +--------------[/go]
leads to black to play in following position
$$B
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ +--------------
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[go]$$B
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X . X . .
$$ | O O O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ | O . O X . . .
$$ +--------------[/go]
Re: Why is white dead?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:53 am
by Shenoute
The last diagram is not a seki because black can play at any of the intersections inside the shape (1-1 and 2-3). Such a move puts the whole white chain in atari, threatening to capture it next move. White's only answer is to capture black three stones but by doing so he only creates a dead shape since it is now black's turn (
'Three-in-a-row' if black played the 2-3 point and
'Bent three' if black played the 1-1 point).
Re: Why is white dead?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:20 am
by Jika
Ah, sorry, I see!
The exercises before were all "win a killing race to save your stones".
So I was too focused on keeping my own (black) stones alive.
Sacrificing them, I see immediately how this will kill white.
I stopped playing this out on a board too early. Obviously.
Thank you!
Re: Why is white dead?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:41 am
by Kirby
You might find this image, which Bonobo made on SL, a useful reference:
These black groups all have the minimum required stones for living.
https://senseis.xmp.net/?SmallestGroupWithTwoEyes
Kind of just for fun, but it's interesting to think about these small shapes that are alive.