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 Post subject: Re: Jika vs Kirby
Post #121 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:37 am 
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I also considered:
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My intention is to block Kirby from connecting his upper right group with his centre group. I rejected this because I'm not sure Kirby will react by connecting this single stone but act in the larger picture.
I can't decide if Kirby is going to fight locally (attacking my L13 stone??).
I'll see it soon.

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Post #122 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:52 am 
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Black is playing many moves in the upper right portion of the board, and thus several of his stones are becoming weak.
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Post #123 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:09 am 
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Trying to think big?

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Post #124 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:40 am 
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Kirby wrote:
Trying to think big?


How about this for thinking big? :)

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Post #125 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:16 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I also considered:
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[go]$$Wm31
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$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . 0 . . X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't like that Kirby is slicing up the board as if it was a cake (with the handicap stones being the candles or cherries... (coming home from work - I guess I'm hungry...)).
I chose the slow move hoping that it will make the connection between the upper right and the center weaker.

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Post #126 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:18 am 
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[go]$$Wm41
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X . . . X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . X . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, Jika.. You take the top right, and I’ll take the rest!

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Post #127 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:23 am 
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I think move 38 got lost in later diagrams :scratch:

Or did jika just change move 40 and Thun Kirby changed 41? Either war, I‘m confused...

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Post #128 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:45 pm 
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Hmm, good point.

Looking back, I think Jika also has a stone here?

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . B . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #129 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:47 pm 
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Wait, I’m missing a move, too?

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . X . X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . B . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:scratch:

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Post #130 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:48 pm 
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I think the moves got changed from Jika’s last post..

Maybe we should rewind to here?

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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