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13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:25 pm
by xiayun
First round (going from 24 players to 16):

Murakawa Daisuke beat Ryan Li
Kang Dongyun beat Motoki Katsuya
Byun Sangil beat Mi Yutin
Xu Jiayang beat Kim Jiseok
Li Xiao beat Shibano Toramaru
Yu Zhengqi beat Ilya Shikshin
Shin Minjun beat Iyama Yuta
Xu Haohong beat Shi Yue

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:28 pm
by xiayun
Round of 16:

Shin Jinseo beat Yu Jiayang
Ke Jie beat Kang Dongyun
Lian Xiao beat Park Junghwan
Byun Sangil beat Yang Dingxin
Tang Weixing beat Shin Minjun
Park Yeonghun beat Yu Zhengqi
Fang Tingyu beat Murakawa Daisuke
Xu Haohong beat Chen Yaoye

Xu Haohong from Taiwan beat 2 former world champs to advance to the last 8!

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:30 pm
by xiayun
Quarterfinal matchups:

Fan Tingyu vs. Shin Jinseo
Ke Jie vs. Xu Haohong
Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil
Tang Weixing vs. Park Yeonghun

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:52 am
by lichigo
Thank you for the informations, still don't know when is the last 8 I think. Good matches coming for sure ^^

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:38 am
by emerus
lichigo wrote:Thank you for the informations, still don't know when is the last 8 I think. Good matches coming for sure ^^
I expect it will be in December as usual.

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:54 pm
by Mikebass14
Thank you for the info! Does anyone have any thoughts on the Ke Jie game? It seemed pretty surprising to me but I didn't really understand it.

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:21 am
by Uberdude
Here's the game, any parts in particular?


Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:45 am
by lichigo
I saw a korean commentary on this game, black didn't play well at the top. And the highlight is the fight after the white's reduction. I found a chinese source (you can translate it in English with the right click)
https://weiqi.qq.com/news/10981.html

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:30 pm
by Mikebass14
Thanks both! I was thinking especially of moves 40-50. All the (elephant) jumping around just doesn't look like what I'm used to seeing. Did that seem "normal" to anyone? I was watching a stream, Biba or Kim Yoonyoung, who pointed out that there were something like five elephant jumps in that area.

Also, I was surprised that white let black connect with 88-89. Was that for sente, or was the corner just bigger than what white lost?

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm
by Uberdude
I wouldn't call the dance of the elephants normal, but it's not unheard of. Here's a game from Lee Sedol several years ago with a similar pattern: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=16774&p=246909&hil ... ol#p246909. It evokes the situation of when two polite people meet in a narrow path and keep moving left and right "no you go first" "no you" "I insist, you go", each player is inviting the other to connect with the kosumi through the elephant jump but neither wants to as then you end up feeling kikashid.

Top left looks like Ke didn't want to cut because then black gets good sente endgame so he went for the trade. Could have avoided that though by pushing at d17 before E18 block.

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:24 pm
by Mikebass14
Thanks Uberdude, that's another really interesting and fun game, good material for me to work through slowly! There's something about those elephant jumps, so close together and so aggressively not connected that's hard for me to wrap my head around.

That linked Chinese page is cool too, lichigo. Fun flavor to it, and it's good Chinese reading practice for me.

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:47 pm
by xiayun
The quarterfinal matches for Chunlan Cup will be held on 1/18. Here are the matchups:

Fan Tingyu vs. Shin Jinseo
Ke Jie vs. Xu Haohong
Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil
Tang Weixing vs. Park Yeonghun

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:32 pm
by xiaodai
Ke Jie vs. Xu Haohong
Tang Weixing vs. Park Yeonghun
Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil
Fan Tingyu vs. Shin Jinseo

Winner of game 1 will vs game 2 etc.

So if Ke Jie and Shin Jinseo meet, it will be the final. The final to watch.

Based on my simulations Shin Jin Seo has a 51% chance of winning the whole thing while Ke Jie has 30.5% chance.


Code here https://gist.github.com/xiaodaigh/0326a ... d4aeeef812

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:51 am
by xiayun
Quarterfinal results:

Ke Jie beat Xu Haohong
Tang Weixing beat Park Yeonghun
Lian Xiao beat Byun Sangil
Shin Jinseo beat Fan Tingyu

Re: 13th Chunlan Cup

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:49 am
by trout
Semi-Final(1/20 11:30 am)
Ke Jie vs Tang Weixing
Lian Xiao vs Shin Jinseo