$$ Position at move 102: Status of top White group $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . W W X W W . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ Position at move 102: Status of top White group $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . W W X W W . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I wasn't sure I could kill it, so I didn't try really hard. I looked at it after the game, and thought others might want to try. No solution from my side.
Game is attached.
Re: Tsumego from a game
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:09 pm
by mw42
$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O Q O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O Q O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
What do I win?!
Here are three quick things I saw immediately. I didn't think too long on it, though, so maybe someone can expand on it.[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]GN[]DT[2011-02-13]PC[http://lifein19x19.com/]AW[jb][hc][ic][kc][lc][dd][df][pf][qf][mg][og][pg][dh][mh][qh][rh] [ci][ni][pi][qi][ri][cj][mj][nj][rj][bk][lk][ok][qk][cl][ml][ol] [ql][rl][cm][nm][pm][qm][cn][on][co][dp][pp][qp][rp][dq][nq][oq] [mr][nr]AB[fc][jc][nc][id][kd][pd][fe][je][qe][of][rf][fg][qg][rg][nh][oh] [ph][sh][ei][li][mi][oi][dj][kj][lj][oj][pj][qj][ck][dk][kk][pk] [ll][pl][dm][lm][sm][dn][do][oo][po][qo][ro][ep][mp][np][op][fq] [mq][lr]C[Diagram from http://lifein19x19.com/
A fantastic set of 9 black stones, in a double Tee formation!
Actually, I meant the White group at the very top. I've made it clearer now.
Re: Tsumego from a game
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:26 pm
by mw42
Phelan wrote:A fantastic set of 9 black stones, in a double Tee formation!
Actually, I meant the White group at the very top. I've made it clearer now.
I know. I was just being silly. Anyway, I posted something relevant in an edit of my post.
Re: Tsumego from a game
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:29 am
by topazg
In response to mw42's suggestion:
$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 5 . O . . 4 2 3 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 5 . O . . 4 2 3 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 . . O . . 3 2 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X 7 . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 6 . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . 8 . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 . . O . . 3 2 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X 7 . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 6 . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . 8 . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White's alive, no?
EDIT: Actually, it seems the top one is dead - there's lots of local aji though. Maybe better is:
$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 8 . O . 6 . 2 3 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 5 . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 8 . O . 6 . 2 3 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 5 . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Tsumego from a game
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:34 am
by mw42
Indeed. I was trying to keep it as local as possible, imagining black to be thick all around. Even though I did use that attachment in one of my variations.
Anyway, I posted something relevant in an edit of my post.