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EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:11 am
by RobertJasiek
Probably the EGF referee workshop will be held on the EGC second week's Wednesday (August 3) afternoon + evening and Thursday (August 4) evening. Successful participants will get the EGF Certified Referee certificate. The rules commission is investigating whether it qualifies also for applying as referee to the WMSG 2011 in Manchester.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:05 pm
by TMark
Isn't that WMSG 2012?
Best wishes.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:23 pm
by RobertJasiek
Oops, yes, thanks!
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:48 pm
by oren
Has there been a request for WMSG referees?
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:16 pm
by Javaness
I don't see one on the IGF website
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:48 pm
by RobertJasiek
oren wrote:Has there been a request for WMSG referees?
1) Apparently a provisional request by the IGF has reached the BGA.
2) I have requested it a few times during the last years.
It is still unclear to us how the Go events of the WMSG will be organized, except that obviously the IGF board cannot do it alone. From Europeans do everything via Asians do everything to the world wide go community does everything, all is possible. Organization will be similar to an EGC. Such a big event does not organize itself by sticking one's head into the sand. We must be prepared if Europe is asked to do most of the organization. Referee education is just a small part of that.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:05 pm
by oren
RobertJasiek wrote:1) Apparently a provisional request by the IGF has reached the BGA.
I'd be curious to see that. There's little information at all if there will be future WMSG.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?WMSGAs you said, it's a big event and there's no information anywhere online if someone is organizing it.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:43 pm
by RobertJasiek
oren wrote:I'd be curious to see that.
I am not sure if everybody may cite from the BGA gotalk mailing list.
there's no information anywhere online if someone is organizing it.
I think I may say so much that in a few months more information will be available. Currently IMSA, IGF and EGF Committee do or do not inform you.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:57 pm
by willemien
RobertJasiek wrote:Probably the EGF referee workshop will be held on the EGC second week's Wednesday (August 3) afternoon + evening and Thursday (August 4) evening. Successful participants will get the EGF Certified Referee certificate. The rules commission is investigating whether it qualifies also for applying as referee to the WMSG 2011 in Manchester.
Is it not possible to organise an referee workshop online or so , i would like to do it but won't be able to come to the EGC.
Also is there a decision on the go- and tournament
rules?
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:18 am
by RobertJasiek
Currently the rules commission does not want to hold online workshops because we want to be sure that people getting certificates are real while participating. Of course, you can use various forums to pose questions and hope for answers.
Which decision on go and tournament rules are you asking for?
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:59 am
by Harleqin
Can you give some more details of the content of the workshop?
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:17 am
by RobertJasiek
Basically we have had the same contents every time:
* Refereeing
* Tournament Systems + Pairing Programs
* Tournament Rules
* Rules of Play
This time there might be a change within these topics though: Greater emphasis on WMSG-related rules.
Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:50 am
by willemien
RobertJasiek wrote:Currently the rules commission does not want to hold online workshops because we want to be sure that people getting certificates are real while participating. Of course, you can use various forums to pose questions and hope for answers.
Which decision on go and tournament rules are you asking for?
before the tournament starts there has to be agreement on :
* Tournament Systems + Pairing Programs
* Tournament Rules
* Rules of Play
As far as i know (but you know that better than me) there is no decision on any of them

Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:46 pm
by oren
willemien wrote:before the tournament starts there has to be agreement on :
Don't forget existence of the tournament first.

Re: EGF Referee Workshop 2011
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:58 pm
by RobertJasiek
willemien, if you mean EGF tournaments:
- tournament rules are EGF General Tournament Rules and EGF Tournament System Rules, some specific tournaments have particular tournament rules (some fixed, some drafts)
- rules of play: you find the options in the General Tournament Rules
- pairing programs: see appendix of Tournament System Rules
Now which decisions might you mean?