Is the title just a way to get attention (and if so, that's cute), or did you misclick because of the phone?
Re: shameless iphone killed my group
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:46 am
by entropi
hyperpape wrote:Is the title just a way to get attention (and if so, that's cute), or did you misclick because of the phone?
Haha, no I didn't misclick I was playing fast on 9x9 board and igowin on iphone shamelessly killed my group. Looking at the shape later I couldn't figure out the true status of my group.
Re: shameless iphone killed my group
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:53 am
by Bill Spight
How would you try to kill as Black?
Re: shameless iphone killed my group
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:58 am
by entropi
Bill Spight wrote:How would you try to kill as Black?
First instinct, hane.
Re: shameless iphone killed my group
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:32 am
by unkx80
Some thoughts. Not a solution.
This problem looks hideously similar to a problem I have seen before. So my first instinct is as follows.
$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| 5 O O X . . .
$$| . 3 4 , X X .
$$| . . O . . . .
$$| . O . . X . .
$$| . 2 1 . . . .
$$---------------
[go]$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| 5 O O X . . .
$$| . 3 4 , X X .
$$| . . O . . . .
$$| . O . . X . .
$$| . 2 1 . . . .
$$---------------[/go]
Then I saw the following.
$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 2 . 0 X X .
$$| . . O 8 6 7 .
$$| . O . 4 X 9 .
$$| . 3 1 5 . . .
$$---------------
[go]$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 2 . 0 X X .
$$| . . O 8 6 7 .
$$| . O . 4 X 9 .
$$| . 3 1 5 . . .
$$---------------[/go]
I am too brain dead now to think of much more.
Re: shameless iphone killed my group
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:14 am
by Toge
Solve these in my head? No way.
This was my initial thought:
a and b are miai, c and d are miai.
$$B
$$| . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$| . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$| . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$| 2 . c , X X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$| 1 d O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$| b O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$| . a 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$-----------------------------------------
Then I noticed atari above "c" in the first diagram kills it, so white 2 must be wrong. In any case, black 1's connection should be severed. This was my thought, but white move 2 at W10 proved to be formidable.
[go]$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 1 2 , X X .
$$| . . O . . . .
$$| . O . . X . .
$$| . . 3 . . . .
$$---------------[/go]
$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 1 5 , X X .
$$| 7 6 O . . . .
$$| . O . 2 X . .
$$| . . 3 4 . . .
$$---------------
[go]$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 1 5 , X X .
$$| 7 6 O . . . .
$$| . O . 2 X . .
$$| . . 3 4 . . .
$$---------------[/go]
$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 1 . , X X .
$$| . . O . . . .
$$| . O . 3 X . .
$$| . . 2 . . . .
$$---------------
[go]$$
$$| . . X . . . .
$$| . X X X . . .
$$| . O O X . . .
$$| . 1 . , X X .
$$| . . O . . . .
$$| . O . 3 X . .
$$| . . 2 . . . .
$$---------------[/go]
I was playing fast on 9x9 board and igowin on iphone shamelessly killed my group. Looking at the shape later I couldn't figure out the true status of my group.