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Large Avalanche game
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 am
by emeraldemon
Just yesterday I took all the avalanche variations off of my dailyjoseki queue, because I thought "when will I ever use any of this?" Then I had this game

. My opponent got ahead in the middlegame because I mismanaged a weak group (esp. a good tesuji for black at 101), but I started a successful attack around 170 and my opponent messed up some endgame, so I was able to squeak out a win.
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Re: Large Avalanche game
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:12 am
by Harleqin

is a mistake.
Re: Large Avalanche game
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:50 am
by emeraldemon
I was wondering about that. I know the usual joseki looks like this:
$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 3 X X 4 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 6 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 3 X X 4 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 6 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .[/go]
But after the sequence he played, I didn't see anything I could do other than let it revert:
$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X 6 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X 6 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Any ideas?
Re: Large Avalanche game
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:22 am
by amnal
In your diagram:
$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X 6 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X 6 . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .[/go]
the exchange of 5 for 6 prevents black capturing white's corner very easily.
Since white has neglected to do this, presumably he wants you to eat the corner. I think it is reasonable to oblige.
$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X . . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W corner
$$ ------------------
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . 5 X X . . . . .
$$ | . O O X O . . . .
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . . X O . . . . .
$$ | . 3 1 X . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .[/go]
This leaves white with an annoying problem of attacking black's cutting stone.
Re: Large Avalanche game
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:03 am
by emeraldemon
wow, I completely missed that. Thanks!