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Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:55 am
by Cherries
I'm currently sittin' pretty at 5 kyu after six months of playing but I feel one of them plateaus comin' on. I decided to memorize some of dem pro games but I was wonderin' what specific games are good for showin' "thickness"or "strength"or "influence". Now I know the first thing that'll pop up is Takemiya and that's cool, but can you gimme specific games that can be found on gobase or summin' similar to that. I don't usually have the internet so I don't get to play much which is why I'm lookin' for a new way to stall stallin'. Thanks. Peace
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:30 am
by RobertJasiek
Go Seigen 1933 or later.
Fujisawa Shuko (his Kisei years) for creating proper move thickness.
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:08 am
by emeraldemon
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:10 am
by Bill Spight
Some ancient influence games.
(;CA[ISO8859-1]FF[4]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]GM[1]SZ[19]FG[259:]US[GoGoD95]PB[Yasui Chitetsu]GN[ ]PM[0]RE[W+10]PW[Honinbo Dosaku]KM[0.0]PC[Home of Yoshida Ian]C[*** White was one of the strongest players ever, said to be 13 p.]DT[1669-08-03 (Kanbun 9 VII 7)]
;B[qd]
;W[oc]
;B[lc]C[*** Go theory was in its infancy.]
;W[qo]
;B[cp]
;W[eq]
;B[hq]
;C[*** White has played his signature opening, the swastika 5-3 points.]W[ce]
;B[ec]
;W[cc]
;B[hc]C[*** Low.]
;W[pq]
;B[lq]
;W[qh]
;B[pc]
;W[cl]
;B[do]
;W[eo]
;B[dm]
;W[dl]
;B[en]
;W[fo]
;B[dq]
;W[ho]
;B[er]
;C[*** White plays for central influence.]W[fe]
;B[fq]
;W[lo]
;B[od]
;W[ie]
;B[id]
;W[je]
;B[fg]C[*** Black plays lightly inside White's sphere of influence.]
;W[ed]
;B[ci]
;W[fl]
;B[fj]
;W[eh]
;B[dj]
;W[ek]
;B[fh]
;C[*** Big.]W[hk]
;B[hi]
;W[jj]
;B[jh]
;C[*** Leaning attack.]W[ld]
;B[mc]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[ii]
;B[hg]
;W[gd]
;B[kg]
;W[gc]
;B[lj]
;W[ki]
;B[mh]
;W[ni]
;B[li]
;W[kl]
;B[hj]
;C[*** White makes a large framework. Last comment.]W[mk]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[qn]
;W[po]
;B[oi]
;W[pj]
;B[il]
;W[im]
;B[jm]
;W[jl]
;B[ij]
;W[in]
;B[jp]
;W[ip]
;B[iq]
;W[nh]
;B[rh]
;W[ri]
;B[qg]
;W[ph]
;B[gb]
;W[nd]
;B[nc]
;W[oe]
;B[pd]
;W[fb]
;B[mo]
;W[mn]
;B[ko]
;W[lp]
;B[jn]
;W[bj]
;B[bi]
;W[cj]
;B[di]
;W[fn]
;B[em]
;W[el]
;B[cm]
;W[bm]
;B[bn]
;W[bl]
;B[mp]
;W[ln]
;B[mq]
;W[kq]
;B[kp]
;W[nr]
;B[or]
;W[oq]
;B[nq]
;W[kr]
;B[lr]
;W[no]
;B[pr]
;W[ks]
;B[ns]
;W[jq]
;B[qq]
;W[jc]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[hb]
;B[hp]
;W[io]
;B[rg]
;W[kj]
;B[ls]
;W[kn]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[so]
;W[sn]
;B[sp]
;W[rn]
;B[rj]
;W[si]
;B[oh]
;W[oj]
;B[ng]
;W[mi]
;B[og]
;W[pi]
;B[mg]
;W[ep]
;B[co]
;W[ir]
;B[hr]
;W[dr]
;B[fr]
;W[le]
;B[lk]
;W[ll]
;B[kh]
;W[bg]
;B[gk]
;W[cg]
;B[gl]
;W[fm]
;B[am]
;W[cr]
;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[cq]
;W[gp]
;B[is]
;W[jo]
;B[gq]
;W[ar]
;B[es]
;W[js]
;B[hs]
;W[eg]
;B[op]
;W[oo]
;B[me]
;W[ji]
;B[hm]
;W[pp]
;B[md]
;W[kc]
;B[lf]
;W[lb]
;B[mb]
;W[ja]
;B[la]
;W[ff]
;B[ke]
;W[kd]
;B[jf]
;W[kf]
;B[he]
;W[hd]
;B[if]
;W[ke]
;B[hh]
;W[ei]
;B[ej]
;W[np]
;B[gm]
;W[fi]
;B[ai]
;W[ag]
;B[dh]
;W[dg]
;B[aj]
;W[ak]
;B[ck]
;W[bk]
;B[dk]
;W[qp]
;B[rq]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]
;W[sh]
;B[sg]
;W[gf]
;B[hf]
;W[ao]
;B[an]
;W[aq]
;B[ap]
;W[bp]
;B[ds]
;W[jr]
)
(;CA[ISO8859-1]FF[4]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]GM[1]SZ[19]FG[259:]US[GoGoD95]PB[Sakaguchi Sentoku]GN[ ]PM[0]RE[B+R]PW[Honinbo Retsugen]KM[0.0]PC[Residence of Lord Tanuma of Noto]C[*** Black was known for his center oriented play.]DT[1771-12-03 (Meiwa 8 X 27)]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[ep]
;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[qp]
;B[qo]
;W[rp]
;B[qk]
;W[oc]
;B[pe]
;W[cf]
;B[nd]
;W[mc]
;B[kc]
;W[md]
;B[hc]
;W[iq]
;B[np]
;W[ro]
;B[qm]
;W[nq]
;B[mp]
;W[ne]
;B[co]
;W[er]
;B[fq]
;W[fr]
;B[hq]
;W[gq]
;B[gp]
;W[gr]
;B[hp]
;W[hr]
;B[ip]
;W[jq]
;B[cj]C[*** Black makes a large framework.]
;W[fc]
;B[ke]
;W[jd]
;B[kd]
;W[od]
;B[pg]
;W[jc]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[ic]
;B[je]
;W[hb]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[mg]
;B[lf]
;W[qb]
;B[nh]C[*** Now Black has a huge framework.]
;W[jp]
;B[jo]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]C[*** Black builds a wall.]
;W[jn]
;B[io]
;W[lp]
;B[kn]
;W[lo]
;B[ln]
;W[mo]
;B[mn]
;W[no]
;B[nn]
;C[*** White reduces Black's framework.]W[ej]
;B[cg]
;W[dg]
;B[ch]
;W[dh]
;B[bf]
;W[ci]
;B[df]
;W[ce]
;B[di]
;W[bi]
;B[eh]C[*** Black builds another wall.]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[ef]
;B[ff]
;W[ee]
;B[ei]
;W[bj]
;B[ck]
;W[bk]
;B[cl]
;C[*** Is it too late? Last comment.]W[hf]
;B[hg]
;W[if]
;B[ig]
;W[jf]
;B[kh]
;W[bl]
;B[bm]
;W[dj]
;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[fi]
;W[ek]
;B[hj]
;W[hk]
;B[dm]
;W[jh]
;B[jg]
;W[kf]
;B[le]
;W[kg]
;B[lg]
;W[ij]
;B[gj]
;W[ki]
;B[lh]
;W[gh]
;B[gg]
;W[dp]
;B[do]
;W[cp]
;B[ie]
;W[he]
;B[hd]
;W[ge]
;B[fe]
;W[gd]
;B[ed]
;W[de]
;B[fd]
;W[gb]
;B[lq]
;W[kq]
;B[oo]
;W[kp]
;B[gk]
;W[rc]
;B[pq]
;W[pp]
;B[op]
;W[mq]
;B[qq]
;W[rq]
;B[rr]
;W[or]
;B[rn]
;W[qr]
;B[rd]
)
(;CA[ISO8859-1]FF[4]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]GM[1]SZ[19]FG[259:]US[GoGoD95]PB[Inoue Intatsu]RU[Chohan (=nigiri)]GN[ ]EV[Castle Game]PM[0]RE[W+3]PW[Sakaguch Sentoku I]KM[0.0]DT[1774-12-19 (An'ei 3 XI 17)]RO[O-konomi]
;B[cp]
;W[po]
;B[qe]
;W[od]
;B[pc]
;W[oc]
;B[pb]
;W[ed]
;B[jc]
;W[hc]
;B[lc]
;W[of]
;B[pe]
;C[*** High, wide, and handsome.]W[lf]
;B[oe]
;W[md]
;B[mc]
;W[ne]
;B[nc]
;W[nd]
;B[ob]
;W[qk]
;B[ph]
;W[eq]
;B[iq]
;C[*** Ditto.]W[io]
;B[lq]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[hp]
;B[dq]
;W[do]
;B[co]
;W[dn]
;B[cm]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;C[*** Shades of Dosaku!]W[lo]
;B[jr]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]
;W[nj]
;B[mh]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]
;W[pq]
;B[lp]
;W[mo]
;B[dm]C[*** Big.]
;W[cd]
;B[fm]
;W[ch]
;B[ce]
;W[de]
;B[cf]
;W[eg]
;B[bd]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]
;B[ab]
;W[cb]
;B[bh]
;W[bi]
;B[bg]
;W[di]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[af]
;W[qi]
;B[qh]
;W[ni]
;B[nh]
;W[pi]
;B[oh]
;C[*** Good point. Flexible. Last comment.]W[kg]
;B[kh]
;W[jh]
;B[ki]
;W[or]
;B[gr]
;W[gm]
;B[gn]
;W[fn]
;B[en]
;W[fo]
;B[hn]
;W[eo]
;B[em]
;W[in]
;B[hm]
;W[ie]
;B[hh]
;W[ji]
;B[jj]
;W[ig]
;B[im]
;W[kn]
;B[ii]
;W[kk]
;B[hg]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[hf]
;B[jf]
;W[je]
;B[jg]
;W[kf]
;B[ih]
;W[er]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[if]
;W[he]
;B[rh]
;W[jl]
;B[sk]
;W[sl]
;B[sj]
;W[ri]
;B[si]
;W[rl]
;B[bk]
;W[dj]
;B[dk]
;W[ek]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[jm]
;W[km]
;B[fh]
;W[kd]
;B[ld]
;W[ke]
;B[ej]
;W[ei]
;B[fj]
;W[bj]
;B[ck]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[gj]
;B[fk]
;W[gk]
;B[el]
;W[ik]
;B[gl]
;W[kp]
;B[kq]
;W[ak]
;B[al]
;W[ai]
;B[eh]
;W[dg]
;B[aj]
;W[be]
;B[ac]
;W[ak]
;B[bn]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]
;W[jk]
;B[lj]
;W[lk]
;B[mj]
;W[mk]
;B[mf]
;W[mg]
;B[ng]
;W[nf]
;B[lg]
;W[le]
;B[jp]
;W[ko]
;B[fq]
;W[fp]
;B[ff]
;W[fg]
;B[gg]
;W[df]
;B[ae]
;W[cs]
;B[bs]
;W[ds]
;B[br]
;W[pf]
;B[qf]
;W[fr]
;B[gq]
;W[ho]
;B[fs]
;W[ja]
;B[ka]
;W[ia]
;B[fe]
;W[fd]
;B[rk]
;W[ql]
;B[ij]
;W[hj]
;B[hl]
;W[hk]
;B[mp]
;W[np]
;B[lr]
;W[pd]
;B[qd]
;W[id]
;B[lb]
;W[rj]
;B[sh]
;W[ns]
;B[ms]
;W[os]
;B[pg]
;W[mi]
;B[li]
;W[ip]
;B[ee]
;W[ah]
;B[ba]
;W[ca]
;B[bf]
;W[aj]
;B[aa]
)
(;CA[ISO8859-1]FF[4]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]GM[1]SZ[19]FG[259:]US[GoGoD95]PB[Okunuki Chisaku]GN[ ]PM[0]RE[B+R]PW[Hayashi Genbi]KM[0.0]C[*** Chisaku's great sacrifice.]DT[c. 1810]GC[The only known game between these two (record was property of Watanabe Hideo 7d)]
;B[cp]
;W[pe]
;B[qp]
;W[eq]
;B[oq]
;W[ce]
;B[hq]
;W[qj]
;B[ep]
;W[dp]
;B[do]
;W[dq]
;B[fp]
;W[cq]
;B[bo]
;W[fq]
;B[gp]
;W[bp]
;B[co]C[*** Black makes a wall.]
;C[*** Some people would say that this move kills Black's influence.]W[cj]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]
;B[ec]
;W[db]
;B[pc]
;W[qc]
;B[qb]
;W[qd]
;B[ob]
;W[hd]
;B[md]
;W[ef]
;B[ee]
;W[df]
;B[ff]
;W[fg]
;B[gf]
;W[gd]
;B[fd]
;W[gh]
;B[if]
;W[fb]
;B[eb]
;W[ea]
;B[gc]
;W[fc]
;B[gb]
;W[fa]
;B[dd]
;W[cc]
;B[ic]
;W[id]
;B[jc]
;W[jd]
;B[kc]
;W[kd]
;B[ld]
;C[*** Now starts a big battle in the center.]W[kf]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]
;B[hf]
;W[ih]
;B[eg]
;W[cd]
;B[gg]
;W[hi]
;B[fh]
;W[kh]
;B[gi]
;W[hc]
;B[hh]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[gh]
;B[ch]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[bg]
;W[cf]
;B[ci]
;W[di]
;B[bj]
;W[dj]
;B[bk]
;W[gj]
;B[fi]
;W[fj]
;B[hj]
;W[hk]
;B[ij]
;W[cl]
;B[ig]
;W[bl]
;B[bi]
;W[en]
;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[ap]
;W[gr]
;B[eo]
;W[ah]
;B[ak]
;W[bm]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[ai]
;W[af]
;B[bh]
;C[*** It looks like White is going to build a wall.]W[jk]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]
;B[ik]
;W[il]
;B[gk]
;W[fk]
;B[hl]C[*** But Black protests.]
;W[ii]
;B[jj]
;W[kj]
;B[jl]
;C[*** Let's make a deal.]W[ji]
;B[kk]
;C[*** Black has sacrificed many stones for a center wall.]W[hh]
;B[lj]
;W[ki]
;B[qh]C[*** Black invades to make use of his wall. Last comment.]
;W[pi]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]
;B[og]
;W[ng]
;B[nh]
;W[oi]
;B[nf]
;W[mg]
;B[lg]
;W[kg]
;B[pf]
;W[mf]
;B[ne]
;W[qn]
;B[on]
;W[po]
;B[op]
;W[ir]
;B[fl]
;W[el]
;B[fm]
;W[em]
;B[fn]
;W[jf]
;B[ql]
;W[pp]
;B[pq]
;W[qq]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]
;B[rp]
;W[qm]
;B[nm]
;W[pl]
;B[jq]
)
(;CA[ISO8859-1]FF[4]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]GM[1]SZ[19]FG[259:]US[GoGoD95]PB[Yasuda Shusaku]OH[-B-]BR[4d]GN[ ]PM[0]RE[B+2 {B connects the ko}]KM[0.0]PW[Inoue Genan Inseki]PC[Day 1 {to move 89}, residence of Tsuji Chujiro, Tennoji-ya, Naniwa, then residence of Hara Saichiro {to move 141} and then meeting organised by Nakagawa Junsetsu at Nakanoshima Kamiya Inn]C[*** Very famous game. Black was also one of the strongest players ever.]DT[1846-09-11,14,15 {Koka 3-VII-21, 24, 25}]GC[The Ear-reddening Game. Traditional records give the result as B+3.]WR[8d]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[oc]
;B[cp]C[*** Shusaku plays his trademark opening.]
;W[cf]
;B[ep]
;W[qo]
;B[pe]C[*** Also a trademark play.]
;W[np]
;B[po]
;W[pp]
;B[op]
;W[qp]
;B[oq]
;W[oo]
;B[pn]
;W[qq]
;B[nq]
;W[on]
;B[pm]
;W[om]
;B[pl]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[ol]
;B[pk]
;W[lq]
;B[lr]
;W[kr]
;B[lp]
;W[kq]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[rs]
;W[mr]
;B[nr]
;W[pr]
;B[ps]
;W[qs]
;B[no]
;W[mo]
;B[qr]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[qs]
;B[lo]
;W[mn]
;B[qr]
;W[qm]
;B[or]
;W[ql]
;B[qj]
;W[rj]
;B[ri]
;W[rk]
;B[ln]
;W[mm]
;B[qi]
;W[rq]
;B[jn]
;W[ls]
;B[ns]
;W[gq]
;B[go]C[*** Big.]
;W[ck]
;B[kc]
;W[ic]
;B[pc]
;C[*** Big.]W[nj]
;B[ke]
;W[og]
;B[oh]
;W[pb]
;B[qb]
;W[ng]
;B[mi]
;W[mj]
;B[nd]
;W[ph]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[hq]
;W[hr]
;B[ir]
;W[iq]
;B[hp]
;W[jr]
;B[fc]
;W[lc]
;B[ld]
;W[mc]
;B[lb]
;W[mb]
;B[md]
;W[qf]
;B[pf]
;W[qh]
;B[rg]
;W[rh]
;B[sh]
;W[rf]
;B[sg]
;W[pj]
;B[pi]
;W[oi]
;B[oj]
;W[ni]
;B[qk]
;W[ok]
;B[qe]
;W[kb]
;B[jb]
;W[ka]
;B[jc]
;W[ob]
;B[ja]
;W[la]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[fe]
;W[cn]
;B[gr]
;W[is]
;B[fq]
;W[io]
;B[ji]C[*** A physician who was watching the game noticed that Inoue's ears turned red after this play. From that he predicted that Black would win. This play has powerful influence. It extends the Black framework on the top side, supports the weak Black group on the bottom side, and supports an invasion or reduction on the left side. It also hinders White from extending his framework in the center.]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[eg]
;B[dj]C[*** The shoulder blow for reduction. Last comment.]
;W[dk]
;B[ej]
;W[cj]
;B[dh]
;W[ij]
;B[hm]
;W[gj]
;B[eh]
;W[fl]
;B[fg]
;W[er]
;B[dm]
;W[fn]
;B[dn]
;W[gn]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]
;W[ii]
;B[ik]
;W[jl]
;B[kl]
;W[il]
;B[jh]
;W[co]
;B[do]
;W[ih]
;B[hn]
;W[hl]
;B[bl]
;W[dg]
;B[gh]
;W[ch]
;B[ig]
;W[ec]
;B[cr]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[ed]
;B[gc]
;W[bk]
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Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:00 am
by Cherries
Ahh Mr. Spight I certainly appreciate (and thank) yer timely response but I've been livin in Afrika for the past twelve months er so and my internet thing doesn't support the diagrams you posted. Thanks

Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:33 am
by RobertJasiek
Click on quote. In between every pair of sgf-full ... /sgf-full tages incl. the square brackets, copy, paste and save each SGF file. Then, using and SGF editor, you can view the games.
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:19 pm
by tetriste
You may want to look for Yu Ch'ang-Hyeok. He's not so much about influence, but he's thick alright. One of the best korean player there is too.
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:00 pm
by oren
Cherries wrote:Ahh Mr. Spight I certainly appreciate (and thank) yer timely response but I've been livin in Afrika for the past twelve months er so and my internet thing doesn't support the diagrams you posted. Thanks

What browser are you using? Most modern ones will support the javascript used.
Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:39 pm
by Monadology
oren wrote:Cherries wrote:Ahh Mr. Spight I certainly appreciate (and thank) yer timely response but I've been livin in Afrika for the past twelve months er so and my internet thing doesn't support the diagrams you posted. Thanks

What browser are you using? Most modern ones will support the javascript used.
Seeing as Cherries is in Africa, they must clearly be using Safari

Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:03 pm
by Mnemonic
He might also be using an outdated version of Internet
Explorer. Would explain the lack of JavaScript

Re: Pro Games for Influence
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:09 pm
by tetriste
im posing from my ipod, so i think safari works as i can see them XD