Life In 19x19

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2011 11:49 am**

I was facing a friend yesterday and he played a shape twice which I'm not sure I responded optimally to either time. I ended up winning both games presented here, but I'd like some answers on how I could have handled those situations better. The outside shapes are quite different, so I'll present both games separately.

Both games are two-stone handicap games and I played white.

Game 1

This was the situation when he peeped.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . 1 . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The game continued like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . 2 . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . X 1 . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 5 . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O 4 . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm6 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . 7 . . . X . X . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . 1 O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O X . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Was

correct? How could I have handled his

better? Or is the way I played good enough?

Game 2

This is where we were when he peeped. Once again, I connected solidly, and one again, he tried to pull out into the side.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , O X . O . , . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O 3 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . 2 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Because this variation is a lot longer, I've included an sgf of how the game went from here. I think

was too early and

should have been at R3, but I'm also curious how you would play in this situation, and if my move at

was effective enough.

Thanks for any help you can give me with these situations!

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2011 6:16 pm**

In the first game, 1 seems best as you played it. I would have played 3 at 6 ( or maybe 010 )

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . 2 . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . X 1 . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

In game 2, again your reply to the peep seems best. I would have played 4 thus:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O 3 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . 2 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . X . . . X . O 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2011 7:47 pm**

answering the peep is the best move for both.

Posted: **Mon May 16, 2011 5:25 am**

I would also connect like that. But the game result somehow feels a little unfortunate for white, I think. How about this (just an idea):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . 4 1 O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O X . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

... with possible continuations like:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 [i]looks good for white, I would say[/i] $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . 1 X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | 3 O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O X . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

or perhaps:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 [i]Equal fight?[/i] $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X . . . . X X X O O O . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . 4 X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 3 2 6 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 7 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 0 . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . X O O , X O O O O , X . . | $$ | . . O X . X . X O O O . O O X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X O X O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X X . O . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Mon May 16, 2011 5:29 am**

Almost every time I play something other than the solid connection in that position vs. a stronger player it turns out very badly for me. Also I've noticed that if I'm the one playing the peep against a weaker player, they get into a lot of trouble if they don't connect. I think you did fine, although I'm not sure how you won the first one...

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