10k game - protecting moyo
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:23 am
by thequietcenter
My comments are in the game
(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[kumadon-metaperl-1]
PW[kumadon]WR[9k]
PB[metaperl]BR[10k]
DT[2011-06-13]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[0.5]
RE[B+Resign]
RU[Japanese]ST[2]
TM[1500.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
C[metaperl [10k]: hi
kumadon [9k]: hi gg
];B[pd]BL[1498.3];W[dq]WL[1497.3]
;B[dc]BL[1496.3];W[qp]WL[1494.9];B[co]BL[1495.4];W[cm]WL[1492.2]
C[painful. I studied the outcomes of the me playing the standard response moves A and B and I dont like either.]
LB[eo:A][ep:B];B[ep]BL[1482.3];W[eq]WL[1489.5];B[dp]BL[1452.6]
C[I know that's wrong joseki, but at the time, I didnt feel like being cut and didnt know the joseki]
;W[cq]WL[1485.8];B[fp]BL[1439.1];W[fq]WL[1483.2];B[gp]BL[1422.5];W[cf]WL[1477.0]
C[respond to the approach or attack his lone stone? ];B[ck]BL[1408.4];W[el]
WL[1465.3];B[ch]BL[1401.7];W[cd]WL[1456.7];B[dd]BL[1392.8];W[cc]WL[1454.6]
;B[de]BL[1376.9];W[ce]WL[1452.6];B[hd]BL[1369.4];W[id]WL[1445.1]
C[What's the best response to this contact play?];B[ie]BL[1364.6];W[ic]WL[1441.5]
;B[he]BL[1348.8];W[hc]WL[1436.3];B[bm]BL[1294.8];W[en]WL[1432.2];B[cn]BL[1283.3]
;W[dm]WL[1429.9];B[gq]BL[1248.8];W[gr]WL[1420.0];B[hr]BL[1246.0];W[gs]WL[1416.5]
;B[iq]BL[1223.1];W[gn]WL[1412.6];B[ej]BL[1175.0];W[bl]WL[1409.5];B[bn]BL[1170.9]
;W[cl]WL[1407.9];B[bk]BL[1123.7];W[dk]WL[1401.9];B[dj]BL[1105.7];W[ek]WL[1398.8]
;B[lc]BL[1043.3];W[gc]WL[1395.4];B[fe]BL[971.0];W[eb]WL[1379.3];B[db]BL[965.9]
;W[cb]WL[1377.7];B[ec]BL[939.4];W[fb]WL[1375.5];B[ea]BL[931.4];W[fa]WL[1373.3]
;B[da]BL[928.6];W[ca]WL[1369.6];B[kb]BL[816.5];W[jb]WL[1363.7];B[hb]BL[801.2]
;W[ib]WL[1350.6];B[fj]BL[775.5];W[gl]WL[1344.9];B[oq]BL[726.2];W[lq]WL[1341.5]
;B[oo]BL[720.5];W[qn]WL[1339.8]
C[Play at A now? Or nobi?]LB[lo:A];B[om]BL[700.6];W[ql]WL[1337.2];B[kn]BL[672.1]
;W[jo]WL[1321.2];B[kp]BL[663.6];W[ko]WL[1317.6];B[lp]BL[661.6];W[lo]WL[1316.4]
;B[mp]BL[658.3];W[in]WL[1312.0];B[mo]BL[628.4];W[ln]WL[1308.6];B[al]BL[583.9]
;W[dn]WL[1303.8];B[le]BL[474.5];W[kd]WL[1296.1];B[ld]BL[425.6];W[kc]WL[1294.1]
;B[qh]BL[402.7];W[qc]WL[1287.1]
C[I think I chose to block the wrong way];B[qd]BL[387.3];W[pc]WL[1285.3]
;B[oc]BL[384.8];W[ob]WL[1284.1];B[nb]BL[367.4];W[nc]WL[1280.1];B[od]BL[360.6]
;W[mb]WL[1278.7];B[nd]BL[352.2];W[lb]WL[1268.4];B[fc]BL[248.6];W[gb]WL[1265.0]
TR[qd][de][qh][fj][om]
C[The triangle stones are demarcating a moyo for Black. But clearly white is right on the edge of the moyo and can hop in easily. How best to build this moyo? I have almost no territory at this point comparatively.
]
;B[li]BL[195.6];W[hj]WL[1252.8];B[ih]BL[133.6]
C[another vain moyo protection move. He could've punished me with A and I'd be looking silly. END OF COMMENTS
]
;W[gi]WL[1247.1];B[il]BL[120.1];W[hm]WL[1245.0];B[kl]BL[105.9];W[ll]WL[1240.7]
;B[lk]BL[95.1];W[ml]WL[1238.7];B[gk]BL[71.3];W[hl]WL[1202.7];B[hk]BL[49.7]
;W[ik]WL[1201.7];B[jk]BL[40.6];W[ij]WL[1199.6];B[km]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[ok]WL[1191.6]
;B[mk]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[nl]WL[1189.7];B[pm]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[qm]WL[1188.1];B[eg]
BL[30.0]OB[4];W[na]WL[1183.3];B[ni]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[oi]WL[1180.1];B[oh]BL[30.0]
OB[4];W[pi]WL[1178.6];B[ph]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[qi]WL[1176.1];B[bg]BL[30.0]OB[4]
;W[bf]WL[1174.5];B[rc]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rb]WL[1165.2];B[rd]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[qb]
WL[1162.7];B[qr]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rq]WL[1135.1];B[jh]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[ke]WL[1131.5]
;B[kf]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[jf]WL[1127.4];B[je]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[lf]WL[1113.4];B[kg]
BL[30.0]OB[4];W[mf]WL[1112.6];B[po]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[md]WL[1108.3];B[of]BL[30.0]
OB[4];W[nf]WL[1102.8];B[ng]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[mg]WL[1091.6];B[mh]BL[30.0]OB[4]
;W[me]WL[1089.9];B[ri]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rj]WL[1088.1];B[rh]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rk]
WL[1081.1];B[br]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bq]WL[1075.7];B[es]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fr]WL[1071.6]
;B[ar]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bp]WL[1068.2];B[cr]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[dr]WL[1066.2];B[ds]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bo]WL[1053.1];B[ao]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ap]WL[1050.1];B[an]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[cs]WL[1048.7];B[cp]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bs]WL[1019.9];B[hs]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[jp]WL[1003.8];B[jq]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[df]WL[1001.6];B[ef]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[gd]
WL[988.0];B[ge]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fd]WL[981.4];B[ee]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[dg]WL[978.8]
;B[dh]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ad]WL[973.1];B[ag]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[af]WL[971.0];B[cg]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fk]WL[968.0];B[gj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[oe]WL[893.0];B[pe]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[ne]WL[878.9];B[lg]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[mc]WL[876.5];B[pf]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[hp]WL[855.0];B[ip]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ho]WL[853.1];B[hq]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[io]
WL[850.3];B[as]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pq]WL[842.2];B[pr]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nq]WL[831.0]
;B[or]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pp]WL[820.5];B[op]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[rr]WL[819.0];B[fs]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[qo]WL[812.2];B[oj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nj]WL[798.0];B[pj]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[qj]WL[797.0];B[mj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nk]WL[789.0];B[lm]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[mm]WL[784.2];B[mn]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[im]WL[780.1];B[nm]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pk]
WL[766.4];B[jl]BL[30.0]OB[3])
GN[kumadon-metaperl-1]
PW[kumadon]WR[9k]
PB[metaperl]BR[10k]
DT[2011-06-13]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[0.5]
RE[B+Resign]
RU[Japanese]ST[2]
TM[1500.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
C[metaperl [10k]: hi
kumadon [9k]: hi gg
];B[pd]BL[1498.3];W[dq]WL[1497.3]
;B[dc]BL[1496.3];W[qp]WL[1494.9];B[co]BL[1495.4];W[cm]WL[1492.2]
C[painful. I studied the outcomes of the me playing the standard response moves A and B and I dont like either.]
LB[eo:A][ep:B];B[ep]BL[1482.3];W[eq]WL[1489.5];B[dp]BL[1452.6]
C[I know that's wrong joseki, but at the time, I didnt feel like being cut and didnt know the joseki]
;W[cq]WL[1485.8];B[fp]BL[1439.1];W[fq]WL[1483.2];B[gp]BL[1422.5];W[cf]WL[1477.0]
C[respond to the approach or attack his lone stone? ];B[ck]BL[1408.4];W[el]
WL[1465.3];B[ch]BL[1401.7];W[cd]WL[1456.7];B[dd]BL[1392.8];W[cc]WL[1454.6]
;B[de]BL[1376.9];W[ce]WL[1452.6];B[hd]BL[1369.4];W[id]WL[1445.1]
C[What's the best response to this contact play?];B[ie]BL[1364.6];W[ic]WL[1441.5]
;B[he]BL[1348.8];W[hc]WL[1436.3];B[bm]BL[1294.8];W[en]WL[1432.2];B[cn]BL[1283.3]
;W[dm]WL[1429.9];B[gq]BL[1248.8];W[gr]WL[1420.0];B[hr]BL[1246.0];W[gs]WL[1416.5]
;B[iq]BL[1223.1];W[gn]WL[1412.6];B[ej]BL[1175.0];W[bl]WL[1409.5];B[bn]BL[1170.9]
;W[cl]WL[1407.9];B[bk]BL[1123.7];W[dk]WL[1401.9];B[dj]BL[1105.7];W[ek]WL[1398.8]
;B[lc]BL[1043.3];W[gc]WL[1395.4];B[fe]BL[971.0];W[eb]WL[1379.3];B[db]BL[965.9]
;W[cb]WL[1377.7];B[ec]BL[939.4];W[fb]WL[1375.5];B[ea]BL[931.4];W[fa]WL[1373.3]
;B[da]BL[928.6];W[ca]WL[1369.6];B[kb]BL[816.5];W[jb]WL[1363.7];B[hb]BL[801.2]
;W[ib]WL[1350.6];B[fj]BL[775.5];W[gl]WL[1344.9];B[oq]BL[726.2];W[lq]WL[1341.5]
;B[oo]BL[720.5];W[qn]WL[1339.8]
C[Play at A now? Or nobi?]LB[lo:A];B[om]BL[700.6];W[ql]WL[1337.2];B[kn]BL[672.1]
;W[jo]WL[1321.2];B[kp]BL[663.6];W[ko]WL[1317.6];B[lp]BL[661.6];W[lo]WL[1316.4]
;B[mp]BL[658.3];W[in]WL[1312.0];B[mo]BL[628.4];W[ln]WL[1308.6];B[al]BL[583.9]
;W[dn]WL[1303.8];B[le]BL[474.5];W[kd]WL[1296.1];B[ld]BL[425.6];W[kc]WL[1294.1]
;B[qh]BL[402.7];W[qc]WL[1287.1]
C[I think I chose to block the wrong way];B[qd]BL[387.3];W[pc]WL[1285.3]
;B[oc]BL[384.8];W[ob]WL[1284.1];B[nb]BL[367.4];W[nc]WL[1280.1];B[od]BL[360.6]
;W[mb]WL[1278.7];B[nd]BL[352.2];W[lb]WL[1268.4];B[fc]BL[248.6];W[gb]WL[1265.0]
TR[qd][de][qh][fj][om]
C[The triangle stones are demarcating a moyo for Black. But clearly white is right on the edge of the moyo and can hop in easily. How best to build this moyo? I have almost no territory at this point comparatively.
]
;B[li]BL[195.6];W[hj]WL[1252.8];B[ih]BL[133.6]
C[another vain moyo protection move. He could've punished me with A and I'd be looking silly. END OF COMMENTS
]
;W[gi]WL[1247.1];B[il]BL[120.1];W[hm]WL[1245.0];B[kl]BL[105.9];W[ll]WL[1240.7]
;B[lk]BL[95.1];W[ml]WL[1238.7];B[gk]BL[71.3];W[hl]WL[1202.7];B[hk]BL[49.7]
;W[ik]WL[1201.7];B[jk]BL[40.6];W[ij]WL[1199.6];B[km]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[ok]WL[1191.6]
;B[mk]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[nl]WL[1189.7];B[pm]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[qm]WL[1188.1];B[eg]
BL[30.0]OB[4];W[na]WL[1183.3];B[ni]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[oi]WL[1180.1];B[oh]BL[30.0]
OB[4];W[pi]WL[1178.6];B[ph]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[qi]WL[1176.1];B[bg]BL[30.0]OB[4]
;W[bf]WL[1174.5];B[rc]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rb]WL[1165.2];B[rd]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[qb]
WL[1162.7];B[qr]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rq]WL[1135.1];B[jh]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[ke]WL[1131.5]
;B[kf]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[jf]WL[1127.4];B[je]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[lf]WL[1113.4];B[kg]
BL[30.0]OB[4];W[mf]WL[1112.6];B[po]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[md]WL[1108.3];B[of]BL[30.0]
OB[4];W[nf]WL[1102.8];B[ng]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[mg]WL[1091.6];B[mh]BL[30.0]OB[4]
;W[me]WL[1089.9];B[ri]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rj]WL[1088.1];B[rh]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[rk]
WL[1081.1];B[br]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bq]WL[1075.7];B[es]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fr]WL[1071.6]
;B[ar]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bp]WL[1068.2];B[cr]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[dr]WL[1066.2];B[ds]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bo]WL[1053.1];B[ao]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ap]WL[1050.1];B[an]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[cs]WL[1048.7];B[cp]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[bs]WL[1019.9];B[hs]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[jp]WL[1003.8];B[jq]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[df]WL[1001.6];B[ef]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[gd]
WL[988.0];B[ge]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fd]WL[981.4];B[ee]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[dg]WL[978.8]
;B[dh]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ad]WL[973.1];B[ag]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[af]WL[971.0];B[cg]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[fk]WL[968.0];B[gj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[oe]WL[893.0];B[pe]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[ne]WL[878.9];B[lg]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[mc]WL[876.5];B[pf]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[hp]WL[855.0];B[ip]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[ho]WL[853.1];B[hq]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[io]
WL[850.3];B[as]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pq]WL[842.2];B[pr]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nq]WL[831.0]
;B[or]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pp]WL[820.5];B[op]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[rr]WL[819.0];B[fs]
BL[30.0]OB[3];W[qo]WL[812.2];B[oj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nj]WL[798.0];B[pj]BL[30.0]
OB[3];W[qj]WL[797.0];B[mj]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[nk]WL[789.0];B[lm]BL[30.0]OB[3]
;W[mm]WL[784.2];B[mn]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[im]WL[780.1];B[nm]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[pk]
WL[766.4];B[jl]BL[30.0]OB[3])